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Oasys mk2 or not,

I think the workstation design is in a very interesting stage,when you look at other sequencers about fitted to other W/S,they all seem to merge in an interesting kind of way,that perhaps each of the big name brands are borrowing or working on a next big thing idea,to me the workstation environment hardware wise is starting to evolve into what we all would like to see,and each model brings a step closer to a perfect solution.

I'm a heavy supporter and user of Both the Roland MV8800 and the Akai MPC4000,and occasionally the Oasys sequencer when you look at the evolution of the Fantom G series and what can be achieved soundwise inside the Oasys and also additional features contained in the M3,the next stage for the workstation is becoming very interesting,and can only progress into a wonderful combination of technologies be it Korg,Yamaha,Roland or any other manufacturer that takes that initial lead in the Market,there's a definete crossing point within them all that each new machine is melding them all in a slightly eyes half closed kind of way,and I kind of like using the different brands they seem to work in a nice combination,Brand Loyalty no longer plays a part in my instrument choice,I've long since given up on the perfect all in one solution,its impossible.

It would be foolish for any of these manufacturers to walk into a workstation concept now in such financially volatiles time so blindly and not take into account the competition out there,and also user requests or ommisions,so surely the next thing on the cards is only going to get better.If thats Oasys 2 or Fantom A,B,G or X,Motif XXX then its surely a good thing,Even if it makes those of us who own the original Oasys feel a little deflated of what it could have been,we've all been a part of that Concept and experiment to take the next version up another level,surely things can only get better and if its good enough we'll all take a perhaps more cautious but evolving leap of faith to its workings.

fallingman wrote: I love my OASYS, but others have pointed out, it's huge, and I'm intrigued by the likes of Logic Pro and REASON, etc.

Hmmm, I don't know, something just doesn't seem right to me with having a computer on stage generating music. Of course, the Oasys is a computer too... but at least it looks like a keyboard...

A bigger problem though is that I just can't seem to get my computer to stop lagging. I have been playing around with Reason, and it is really great. MIDI Recording is 10 times easier than using the Oasys sequencer. But if you listen to the sound side by side with Oasys, there is no comparison. But the best thing about the O is no lag. What would happen if you were performing on stage, and then your latency started creeping up? It doesn't take much to become very noticeable.

I have owned an M1, T3, and currently have a T2, but more importantly I have owned an Alesis Fusion and for 3 years now. The Fusion killed the Oasys. I paid $1299 for mine new. I recently saw the Oasys being played by a 6 year old at a music store as a form of daycare and that tipped me off to it being discontinued and a new model in the works. It will be wonderful to see Korg regain its early M1 (sales) success with a budget Oasys for around $2000 street price. I'm salivating at the prospect of the wonderful combinations built with no compression loss 10mb rich samples. One word of advise, work out those early OS bugs or you will pay dearly as we have already seen. I can just imagine the fun those Korg employees that design these things are having right now. If they make a tabletop version I'll put it on top of my T2 - I hope it fits.

Doug

dhmartens wrote:Fusion killed the Oasys. I paid $1299 for mine new.

Sadly, although I'm sure that its development team worked admirably for its success, I think the Fusion killed itself - as you note, it was very quickly selling for less than half its original asking price, and was discontinued back in 2007. I don't think it had much of an effect on OASYS sales, given the significant differences in sound quality and capabilities between the two (as might be expected for the difference in price).

Sadly,

There is nothing sad here. I have a Fusion and it works and I'm happy. Its not even sad the Oasys is discontinued because now you can make a new one that's "affordable" so thousands of musicians can stop being sad and get a new Oasys 2. When you talk about "price drop" just look at how you guys got the price down on the M50 with all those features. I think you guys are worried about your installed base of Oasys, M3, and M50 when an affordable Oasys 2 hits the market. The Oasys and M3 will need continuing upgrades and support but the M50 is so inexpensive, if you sell it used you won't loose much. Use the team that created the M50, but please add aftertouch. I saw your new mini control surface, you can always add that as an option. A solid state hard disk might be an option too.

Doug

First a correction: The Alesis Fusion has been reissued in somewhat different form, yet the same engine, as the Akai Mpc 5000
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdjP0dVJ-Zg

Also the more I study the M3, the more it seems it is the Oasys 2.

It can load 256mb of new samples in 2 to 3 minutes from a usb drive.
Also many Oasys sounds are being ported to it in the Xpander modules as free down loads.

To completely replace the Oasys it would need Jordan Rudess' fatty grunge pig sound, his other guitar lead sound, and also a mutisample acoustic guitar like in the beginning of the clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAp6iilofDc

Does the M3 have any of those now?

dhmartens wrote: Also the more I study the M3, the more it seems it is the Oasys 2.

It can load 256mb of new samples in 2 to 3 minutes from a usb drive.
Also many Oasys sounds are being ported to it in the Xpander modules as free down loads.

This is the thing though...
A lot of people are always asking "When will we see an affordable OASYS?", but that was the whole point of the M3, it is supposed to be an affordable spin-off from the HD-1, and the Radias (and thus the EXB too), is supposed to be directly related to the AL-1...

I don't know if KORG could make the software/hardware platform like in the OASYS any more 'affordable', it costs what it does because of all the components that go into it. However, there are all those high-quality things... I would personally be happy to pay less for an OASYS that had the same platform but wasn't aimed at audiophile-quality output....


Just thought i'd chime in there.

dhmartens wrote:First a correction: The Alesis Fusion has been reissued in somewhat different form, yet the same engine, as the Akai Mpc 5000
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdjP0dVJ-Zg

A correction to your correction: not really. I wouldn't be surprised if some R&D was shared for the new VA section, but that's quite far from "reissuing" the Fusion. The two instruments clearly have little in common.

dhmartens wrote:Also the more I study the M3, the more it seems it is the Oasys 2.

I can't see how this would be the case, given the fundamental differences between the M3 and the OASYS.

- Dan

X-Trade wrote:that was the whole point of the M3, it is supposed to be an affordable spin-off from the HD-1,

True.

X-Trade wrote:and the Radias (and thus the EXB too), is supposed to be directly related to the AL-1...

The RADIAS shares some technology with the AL-1, but in general the two synths are pretty different. The standard RADIAS VA oscillator uses similar technology to the AL-1, but the implementations of oscillator sync are different (and sound different). The filters are also similar. Each has many features not present on the other.

Best regards,

Dan

Hi all,

My apologies if there is a more appropriate place to ask this:

I have been looking at purchasing the Oasys-76 to put in control room of mid-sized pro studio, and have noted the comments about its future support, newer products, etc.

Would anyone care to advise on a reasonable price (US$) and suitability? For instance we don't have a Hammond, but do have Yamaha C7 and decent drumset, so it could probably help "orchestrally" (with competent arranging). So far I have only been able to audition it in-store and am very impressed.

(I have Morpheus, Proteus 2500, Yam-TG77, Yam VL1m, Novation Supernova, Korg M1, and "old" Ensonic EPS.)

People have voiced concern about parts replacement - hence my dilemma...!

Thanks for any advice, Ger.

The Thing Is coming September

Servranckx wrote:The Thing Is coming September

Please Elaborate - if only just a little, so we can all pre-order it, before Tax increases on VAT form 31.12.09.

they should just do a vsti oasys......after all the oasys is just software / pc parts and some plastic keys and a screen ,seriously any quad pc could run all that os no problem , trouble is korg need to keep selling new plastic keybaord parts with a ' new ; os inside , their business is based on selling more and more new plastic items and enclosures , thats the business game .I think if they did a £799 oasys vsti they would blow everyone away , i am sick of new hardware , thats why i loved the oasys concept but in truth it doesnt fit in with these peoples business logic which is based on how many plastic enclosures loaded with a slightly new os they can sell.I think things are changing though , alot of people is peak to in studios have begin to see through this , they are all saying the same thing , weve stopped buying new synths , were keeping the old ones , its a waste of money.Korg need to wise up .No doubt they will do a m4 or something equally tedious , maybe add the wavestation stuff and vpm engine , not to much , we dont want people buying this and being content ! we need to sell them a new enclosure and os and plastic keys again in 2 years time.Its tedious and seethrough./

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yeah , apologies for my bad grammar , i guess what i am saying makes some sense though ? doesnt anyone else see a neverending stream of plastic boxes with a slight variation on a theme , not to knock korg to much , i think their new mini sampler looks very cool but surely that was the whole point of the oasys ? so that people could buy the machine and then not have to buy ' the next one ' 2 years later , they buy os updates forever and SAVE THE PLANET of plastic poisoning.We dont need to keep updating the shells or interface , we need to start to produce less plastic products and instead upgrade the code , what a great idea the oasys was , i guess the chairman or r/d had a newage moment or saw the odvious thing to do ( make one shell you forever update with £ os updates ) and then when sales figures came in the korgs stocks fell oasys got retired as 'ideologically ' sound but financially irresponsible.Shame and i really hope to see a oasys vsti but i guess its all about whether that would damage plastic keyboard sales and selling of new enclosures , thats synth manufacturers business i feel , to keep selling new plastic parts and keyboards .I hope they realise thats not the future.

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