Korg PA3X with FCB1010

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@Ghoulman@
So are you OK now?
Is everything working like you expect?
Do you have the diagnostic tools you need to make progress?
Will you need any more help, or can you manage now on your own?
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My question is...

Imagine I want to configure the expression to pedal A. It's the cc#11. Do I need to make something else than just with the FCB Editor, put the C#11 to pedal A? Pc# something or anything else? It's because I've putted at the another day the code for start/stop on the first fs and it didn't work.
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For a CC (Continuous Controller) type assigned to one of the analog pedals you need to define the MIDI channel and the CC number and I think the minimum and maximum range. The FCB user manual tells you about this. There is no PC (program change) message associated with it.

You should be able to get Start / Stop working based on what I wrote earlier. This does need the correct Program Change message defined in the Korg manual and if you use MIDI channel 7 then you must set the MIDI Input part of the MIDI mapper in the Pa3x to "Global" for channel 7.
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Post by Ghoulman »

Rob Sherrat!

Thank you about all the help you gave me...

I'll try to configurat it later, i've a few shows to prepare this week, but next week i'll leave here the feedback about what i did...

Thank's everyone!
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@Ghoulman@

When you define the CC#11 for expression I suggest you assign MIDI channel 7 for that as well. Then if on the Pa3x you set the MIDI Mapper so MIDI Input channel 7 is set to "Global" the expression input will change the volume of all tracks.

The "Global" setting on the Pa3x's MIDI mapper is a bit like the MIDI "OMNI" setting that applies the control input to all MIDI channels on the Pa3x.

Hope your shows this weekend go well.

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Global or control?

I was thinking the command at MIDI IN at KORG PA3X was Control...

Global it's what i use with the acordion to recognize the bass,chord and the right hand...
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The FCB footpedal should be configured to send on the same MIDI channel as your Accordion in that case.
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Be careful there is no "MIDI loop". Make sure the Pa3x does not repeat MIDI IN to MIDI OUT.
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HMMM... so in that case, acordion is on GLOBAL MIDI IN CHANNEL 1, and the FCB must be on that channel too?
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You ideally want many facilities e.g. Expression on your FCB to operate in "Omni" mode and the only way to achieve that is to using a channel set to "Global" on the Pa3x. I made this recommendation after you told me you want to program an analog pedal to be an "Expression" pedal. Most people in fact want it to behave like a "Global Volume" pedal on all MIDi channels at the same time.

For controlling the sequencer and Style player it is possible to use the Pa3x setting "Control" assigned to a MIDI channel.

The FCB can generate MIDI on as many different channels as you wish, you don't have to stick with just one.

Maybe there's some things you want to do on one MIDI channel only, e.g. change the BASS sound or Drumkit. Normal "patch change" MIDI PC messages should be sent on one channel only, this channel in the Pa3x should NOT be configured as Global/ OMNI mode.
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Maybe this instruction found on youtube can be of some help when it comes to use it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rC91krEJe4w

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Post by karmathanever »

Hey guys

Don't forget the FREE FCB1010 editing software I mentioned earlier - works great and a lot easier than programming on board.

http://host.mtnsys.com:81/faq-fcb/PCEditorBeta.htm

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This is also a program to use to, or with, the FCB1010

http://obds.free.fr/midimon/
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Post by Ghoulman »

Hmmm... Hello guys...

Is not easy to put this working...

I've used the FCB1010 Free Editor to edit the functions i want...

On BANK 00 i used the next funcions:

1 - Start/Stop - PC#103
2 - Fill 1 - PC#87
3 - Fill 3 - PC#89
4 - Break - PC#91
5 - Damper - CC#64
6 - STS1 - PC#64
7 - STS2 - PC#65
8 - STS3 - PC#66
9 - STS4 - PC#67
10 - Fade In/Out - PC#95
A - Expression - CC#11
B - Volume - CC#7

I've tryed to use Midi Channel 1 with Global first and then with the Midi Chanel 7 with control... and nothing worked! I've pressed all the buttons i've configured and nothing happend! :s

I user the MIDIOX to see if is was using the right channel and when was on MIDI Channel 1 it showed MIDI Channel 1. When i used the MIDI Channel 7 it showed MIDI Channel 7...

I can export the SYSEX file to see if is everything correct...

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Post by Ghoulman »

The Expression Pedals already works! Expression A - Expression - 0 - 127 and Expression B - Expression - 64 - 127...

Expression A it's to mute the UP1,UP2 & UP3 when all rise...
Expression B it's to limit the sound of UP1,UP2 & UP3 when all rise to 64...

This two are working on channel 1 (Korg Midi Channel 1 with Global)...

The Rest doesn't work... Bah.
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