Roland Aira

[djcactus]

Kevin Nolan
Have the stolen the thunder of the Volca range a bit ??

I would have to say yes! The com as and those little boxes and ribbons do nothing for me. These Roland products really look nice and what little we have heard sound good as well.

yes and no. The volca range seems like a step up from the monotribe, these seem more on par with the likes of an electribe or microkorg. Though its really too soon to tell, we will know soon.

[jimknopf]

Like this range a lot. Particularly interested in the synth and TR-8. Vocal transformer not a surprise really - vocoders, the VP330, V-Synth - vocal manipulation is as much 'Roland' as Apple Pie is American.

Have the stolen the thunder of the Volca range a bit ??

This gear might well be a step up from the Voica series concerning function and UI, but probably also concerning price.

And the "thunder" completely depends on the sound. If the VA sound is on Gaia level, I personally would completely forget about the series, if it is significantly more advanced an better sounding within well done functionality, it will be interesting.

[roblabs]

Depending on the price point vs functionality, I think these will be fine even if they're more expensive than the Volcas. But just looking at the photos I can already tell that the build quality is already steps above Korg's.

The thing is, while the Volcas may be affordable, they seem to skimp on a lot. So what ends up happening is that you have to buy this PLUS additional gear. In the end you probably pay the same price or more than if you purchased slightly higher end gear.

Its always a balance between cost and quality.

[Timo]

There are two videos about the boffins at Roland looking at both the TR808 and TR909 individually, yet the new module will be called TR-08. I wonder if this will this also include the 909 sounds, or whether there will be another later module called TR-09? I hope not. Having both the 808 and 909 in one box, as opposed to two, would be much more convenient in terms of use and studio space.

vocal manipulation is as much 'Roland' as Apple Pie is American.

Apple pie is English.

[Kevin Nolan]

There are two videos about the boffins at Roland looking at both the TR808 and TR909 individually, yet the new module will be called TR-08. I wonder if this will this also include the 909 sounds, or whether there will be another later module called TR-09? I hope not. Having both the 808 and 909 in one box, as opposed to two, would be much more convenient in terms of use and studio space.

vocal manipulation is as much 'Roland' as Apple Pie is American.

Apple pie is English.

Of ALL the debates on this forum - I think THE most important one has just arisen. Not Volca versus AIRA, rather:

Apple Pie: American or English ???????????

(I'm Irish so claim no special insight (though my sister bakes THE apple pie to die for - yum (must give her a buzz!!))- but I always thought the phrase was "As American as Apple Pie"?? Surely "Apple Tart" is English ? ).


so tools down - a serious issue to be sorted - is Apple Pie American or English ??


Kevin



PS: while we're at it - what shape is a football ?? (feel like really stirring the SH** tonight). I'm a ManU and a 49'res fan so a have many a sleepless night on this one myself

[Timo]

but I always thought the phrase was "As American as Apple Pie"??

Only since the early-mid 1900's, although I know the yanks like to try and rewrite history.

However, the earliest recipe for an apple pie in England is 1381. Sugar was later added, when it became available. And today, it's still the #1 nation's favourite.

According to Google there weren't any edible apple trees in America when it was first colonised, and thus they were unable to grow apples for a long time (lack of edible European apple varieties, and the lack of the european honey bee to pollinate the trees), and had to import them from us, and those that were were used for cider.

Apple pie isn't really American
American apple pie history
As American as apple pie

A 'tart' over here is either a saucy lady, ahem, or a pie without the top pastry covering. The only tarts we tend to have over here are small jam tartlets (british jam = american jelly), although there are a few saucy ladies too.

Apple pie in the UK is usually always covered, or at least latticed (Dutch style). Great hot or cold with ice cream.

Sorry, when it comes to national pudding/pie territory, I will defend them! ;P

PS: while we're at it - what shape is a football ?? (feel like really stirring the SH** tonight). I'm a ManU and a 49'res fan so a have many a sleepless night on this one myself

I'm no expert, but balls are usually spherical? I would cheekily reason that a foot-ball is therefore a round ball that is kicked with the feet. The clue is in the title! If you're referring to Americans, they play hand-egg. ... With cushions stuffed down their pants. ;P

[Bertotti]

As an American I can promise you I was never ever taught in school that apple pie was an American invention. Saying apple pie is American is a testament to how many people just loved to bake and eat it. I mean hell, how can you not love a good apple pie! So for the record let it be know it was and may very well still be a favorite pie of most Americans and I sincerely thank whomever first put the recipe together! Now I need to go get an apple pie because you all made me hungry for one! As to rewriting history that is more a political motivation to meet agendas which is not localized to anyone country and as individuals we need to challenge anyone trying to do so! A topic we should not venture down here.

I must say though my Kronos might look even better with a big slice of apple pie sitting next to it!

[Bachus]

but I always thought the phrase was "As American as Apple Pie"??

Only since the early-mid 1900's, although I know the yanks like to try and rewrite history.

However, the earliest recipe for an apple pie in England is 1381. Sugar was later added, when it became available. And today, it's still the #1 nation's favourite.

According to Google there weren't any edible apple trees in America when it was first colonised, and thus they were unable to grow apples for a long time (lack of edible European apple varieties, and the lack of the european honey bee to pollinate the trees), and had to import them from us, and those that were were used for cider.

Apple pie isn't really American
American apple pie history
As American as apple pie

A 'tart' over here is either a saucy lady, ahem, or a pie without the top pastry covering. The only tarts we tend to have over here are small jam tartlets (british jam = american jelly), although there are a few saucy ladies too.

Apple pie in the UK is usually always covered, or at least latticed (Dutch style). Great hot or cold with ice cream.

Sorry, when it comes to national pudding/pie territory, I will defend them! ;P

PS: while we're at it - what shape is a football ?? (feel like really stirring the SH** tonight). I'm a ManU and a 49'res fan so a have many a sleepless night on this one myself

I'm no expert, but balls are usually spherical? I would cheekily reason that a foot-ball is therefore a round ball that is kicked with the feet. The clue is in the title! If you're referring to Americans, they play hand-egg. ... With cushions stuffed down their pants. ;P

Dutch apple pies—the type usually decorated with a lattice of pastry on top—have also been around for centuries. A recipe for apple pie very similar to today’s recipes appeared in a Dutch cookbook in 1514.

So basically us dutch invented the apple pie in the form we know it today...

[Kevin Nolan]

....Now I need to go get an apple pie because you all made me hungry for one!...

...bit like that scene in "Inglorious Bastards" where Christoph Waltz is interviewing the young woman in a french restaurant while they both eat the most awesome Apple Strudel (and where the tension builds and builds). Ever since seeing that scene, I have been searching for THE sublime Apple Strudel, but alas have not found one yet

[Bertotti]

I had a really good piece of apple strudel in Iowa end of last year! Some decent raspberry strudel just yesterday in SD! Wow did this topic get off course!

Back on I see on the maschine forums that there is a rant going about how Roland has ruined the Vt in its current form. OP felt it should have been a solid reproduction true to the original, not va and no touch screen. Personaly I think if these things are stable well built and supported they will sell, price depending of course.

[Timo]

Dutch apple pies—the type usually decorated with a lattice of pastry on top—have also been around for centuries. A recipe for apple pie very similar to today’s recipes appeared in a Dutch cookbook in 1514.

So basically us dutch invented the apple pie in the form we know it today...

I think everyone in Europe created their own unique versions.

That should be the new, more appropriate, uniting slogan for the EU: "As European as Apple Pie!". Scrap the Euro currency and use pie-coins instead. The politics would drop away.

Apologies for the randomness! Makes a change from Chilly's other less-edible Apple threads.

[Timo]

Back on topic, only a few more days now.

Will be unveiled at the 2014 Dancefair, 14-16th Feb in Utrecht, Netherlands, just 3 days away.

http://www.musicradar.com/news/tech/rol ... 014-593656

[Bachus]

Dutch apple pies—the type usually decorated with a lattice of pastry on top—have also been around for centuries. A recipe for apple pie very similar to today’s recipes appeared in a Dutch cookbook in 1514.

So basically us dutch invented the apple pie in the form we know it today...

I think everyone in Europe created their own unique versions.

That should be the new, more appropriate, uniting slogan for the EU: "As European as Apple Pie!". Scrap the Euro currency and use pie-coins instead. The politics would drop away.

Apologies for the randomness! Makes a change from Chilly's other less-edible Apple threads.

Actually we do not want a united europe anymore, we want to split the north and the south up

[vladsu]

http://instagram.com/p/kX7pIqrB8m

[mesoboy]

http://www.sonicstate.com/news/2014/02/ ... m-machine/

http://www.sonicstate.com/news/2014/02/ ... t-century/