Totally Underwhelmed!

[QuiRobinez]

Is it me or does the sympathetic resonance piano engine sound more annoying than nice? To me it just sounds like wind chimes in the distance and doesn't sound musical or even anything like a real piano, at least on the older Kronos pianos.

i think it's a personal taste, personally i love that new feature, i've tested it for hours on all kind of pianos and i love that feature, it brings much more life into the piano sounds when i play it.

I also really like the extreme settings (above 100), especially when you use those in combination with some of the insert effects you can create some really nice experimental sounds.

So i don't agree and i find it a big step forward for the piano engine.

[jimknopf]

... personally i love that new feature, i've tested it for hours on all kind of pianos and i love that feature, it brings much more life into the piano sounds when i play it.

I also really like the extreme settings (above 100), especially when you use those in combination with some of the insert effects you can create some really nice experimental sounds.

So i don't agree and i find it a big step forward for the piano engine.

Hi Qui,

what you say has been exactly my impression as well, and like you I have had a lot of pleasure implementing the new possibility into piano patches, including the conscious experimental effects stuff.

I'm glad I'm not the only one listening to the new effect like that.

[genehart]

Definitely that SR adds something in sound that before was missing "between keys" . It opens up new invention possibilities in improvisation, like making rhythmic ostinatos with harmonics . This is just great !

[Bertotti]

With 6 posts total at the time I type this i was trying to figure out which former forum member was back incogniti=o or which yamaha or roland rep or fan popped in to hang out under the new os bridge.

[pedro5]

[/quote]
i think it's a personal taste, personally i love that new feature, i've tested it for hours on all kind of pianos and i love that feature, it brings much more life into the piano sounds when i play it.

I also really like the extreme settings (above 100), especially when you use those in combination with some of the insert effects you can create some really nice experimental sounds.

So i don't agree and i find it a big step forward for the piano engine.[/quote]

QuiRobinez...
Having difficulty with getting this to work, even at a high level.
Realising it is a subtle effect,but I can't seem to be able to detect any differences.

Not sure if it's the settings,monitoring system (including via headphones) or my hearing that's at fault.

I would appreciate any suggestions that could help,please.

Best Wishes.

[ed_f]

With 6 posts total at the time I type this i was trying to figure out which former forum member was back incogniti=o or which yamaha or roland rep or fan popped in to hang out under the new os bridge.

LOL

[BobTheDog]

With 6 posts total at the time I type this i was trying to figure out which former forum member was back incogniti=o or which yamaha or roland rep or fan popped in to hang out under the new os bridge.

Exactly my thoughts.

[QuiRobinez]

QuiRobinez...
Having difficulty with getting this to work, even at a high level.
Realising it is a subtle effect,but I can't seem to be able to detect any differences.

Not sure if it's the settings,monitoring system (including via headphones) or my hearing that's at fault.

I would appreciate any suggestions that could help,please.

it's really simple, just open a000 the standard piano, then go to the SR tab, check the sr and set the value to 127

now play a couple of notes and watch the screen, you will see which other strings will start to resonate (little dots will appear on your screen to give feedback which notes resonate). Then listen in your headphones to the high singing almost sine kind of sound. It's added to the piano sound, then set the value to 0 and play the same notes, you will probably notice then that the high resonance sound is missing. A value between 15 and 30 sounds natural and adds a little bit of atmosphere. Higher values can be done but i prefer to smooth them with the overb effect.

[pedro5]

Thanks Qui...
I've done just that,but I can't really tune into the differences....
So,it must be my hearing...

Best Wishes.

[keez]

Are you using a sustain pedal?

[burningbusch]

Alecia Keys Piano Sympathetic Resonance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoKHCRD49n8

Busch.

[StephenKay]

I think the Sympathetic Resonance adds a ton of realism to the piano. I have a 7'5" Yamaha C7 grand piano here by way of comparison. The new SR is a great feature when dialed in to an appropriate level.

For anyone who says "they can't hear it" - try this experiment:

- load KRONOS German Grand
- turn on SR and set level to about 30 (or higher if you want)
- play a CMaj triad in the octave below middle C (C3 - E3 - G3) and hold it (not with sustain pedal, with your fingers)
- Wait until the notes die out completely
- then, while continuing to hold those keys down (so that the "felt is off the strings"), play staccato short notes of a CMaj arpeggio in the octaves above the held notes, i.e. C4, E4, G4, C5, E5, G5, etc.
- Listen to the resonance of those 3 held notes ring out - very cool!

It's not going to do anything for a rock piano mixed into a track or live band, but for solo piano work or lightly accompanied new age/classical/film, it definitely adds realism, IMO.

[pedro5]

StephenKay
Brilliant reply.
Thanks for explaining this.....very helpful !!!

I was just beginning to make some headway with hearing some differences at levels above 40 etc....but your suggestion has opened my ears to the expected sounds.
It now makes better sense.
Time for me to enjoy it a little more...

Also thanks for the other members that have contributed to my request.

Best Wishes.

[Francois]

It's not going to do anything for a rock piano mixed into a track or live band, but for solo piano work or lightly accompanied new age/classical/film, it definitely adds realism, IMO.

Exactly!

[LivePsy]

I think the problem is most keyboard playes are not fully accomplished pianists who would know what string resonance is. I wonder how many top level pianists even know about the world of high quality piano samples/synthesis available today. I'm betting a real pianist won't accept anything other than an acoustic piano keybed and won't accept sound coming from 2 speakers. They're a superstitious bunch Several of my teachers tried to tell me you impart tone by the press on the key after it strikes the string. Right. Years later you really can import tone with Aftertouch.

* Disclaimer. I passed the UK RSM grade 8 so I'm not a klutz but not that brilliant either.