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MS-DOS wrote:thats the problem see, mine told me "well, so then sell it". we are but puppets of the women:)

i am sure that the box unfolds itself after some use but the problem is i found no actual depth to it. there is no learning curve really. its simple.

I should clarify, the new Electribe is pretty straightforward. Anyone with a basic knowledge of synthesis and experience with groovebox sequencing will find the face-functions of the E2 relatively simple. The shift shortcuts become familiar with a few uses.

The learning curve I was referring to is more about learning the use the E2 effectively. Of course taste is a factor here, so everyone will land on this a little differently. I've made a few of my own templates so I can fire up the Electribe and start creating patterns that will sound good and fit my personal tastes without having to spend any time scrolling through oscillators. I also dig starting from scratch and exploring the machine if time allows. There are a few PCM sounds I'm really fond of (Body Eight Snare!), but I've also gotten great results pitching down, modding and auto-panning PCM sounds I'd otherwise never use. I'm just starting to scratch the surface of possibilities with the M1 instruments (Oneohtrix Point Never is a huge influence of mine, and he uses an M1 to great effect.)

I'm still ways away from making patterns that sound as dope as Mistabishi's, but I'm having a blast getting there.

I am underwhelmed with its sound quality. It sounds like flat and souless, like background music in cheesy usedcar commercial. When Japanese people use it, it sounds especially ugly.

http://youtu.be/W73aOW-wdcs

The only use I can think of is teaching kids how to make a beat.

Really lame product, korg. You could at least milk some personality out of the previous tribes, this is just a childish light show. Even the volcas are cheaper yet have more far more character and versatility. I'd be embarrassed to gig with this.

Corbytender wrote:
I should clarify, ... E2 relatively simple. The shift shortcuts become familiar with a few uses.

i get you now and agree. there is definitely lot to be gained from an effective workflow.

britzman wrote:I am underwhelmed with its sound quality. It sounds like flat and souless, like background music in cheesy usedcar commercial. When Japanese people use it, it sounds especially ugly.

http://youtu.be/W73aOW-wdcs

The only use I can think of is teaching kids how to make a beat.

Really lame product, korg. You could at least milk some personality out of the previous tribes, this is just a childish light show. Even the volcas are cheaper yet have more far more character and versatility. I'd be embarrassed to gig with this.

yeah that clip is pretty horrendous. then again some people like it in the comments sections, so i guess you cant argue taste.

funny you mentioned volca because i did a comparision of the keys and bass, and the volcas sounded miles better in my view.

and actually they did put alot of emx flavour in it. soundwise its palette is close, very close imo. only you cant do much with it. it is somewhere between a kaossilator and the emx. and that is not a good thing.

fukk it. it is what it is. there are people that will surely make good music with it.

britzman wrote:I am underwhelmed with its sound quality. It sounds like flat and souless, like background music in cheesy usedcar commercial. When Japanese people use it, it sounds especially ugly.

http://youtu.be/W73aOW-wdcs

The only use I can think of is teaching kids how to make a beat.

Really lame product, korg. You could at least milk some personality out of the previous tribes, this is just a childish light show. Even the volcas are cheaper yet have more far more character and versatility. I'd be embarrassed to gig with this.

Wevs lad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNwmUBUmNtU

doesn't sound crap to me!

p.s that yamada guy makes the TR8 sound like it processes beats out of a jug.

MS-DOS wrote: btw if you are after some glitchy 8-bit game flavoured do yourself a favour and check out soulsby synth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyapZZPuqoo

it sounds like it may be right up your alley.

How did this slip by under my radar!?! thanks!

256K wrote:

MS-DOS wrote: btw if you are after some glitchy 8-bit game flavoured do yourself a favour and check out soulsby synth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyapZZPuqoo

it sounds like it may be right up your alley.

How did this slip by under my radar!?! thanks!

cheers man, very glad you dig it.
it´s quite affordable, versatile and also its nice to support boutique manufacturers with good ideas.

captain johnson wrote:

britzman wrote:I am underwhelmed with its sound quality. It sounds like flat and souless, like background music in cheesy usedcar commercial. When Japanese people use it, it sounds especially ugly.

http://youtu.be/W73aOW-wdcs

The only use I can think of is teaching kids how to make a beat.

Really lame product, korg. You could at least milk some personality out of the previous tribes, this is just a childish light show. Even the volcas are cheaper yet have more far more character and versatility. I'd be embarrassed to gig with this.

Wevs lad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNwmUBUmNtU

doesn't sound crap to me!

p.s that yamada guy makes the TR8 sound like it processes beats out of a jug.

this is indeed a competent set, and the guy looks like he is having tons of fun. out in the open and all, just dope.

i have to be me though and say it timbrewise still does not verve away from the demo tracks.
even with my limited experience with the box, i can pick out the sounds he was using. its just middle of the road stuff. i´ll stop now.

i am honestly looking forward to hear what more extensive and clever layering might bring out. i got tons of mileage from emx drums that way.

MS-DOS wrote:

captain johnson wrote:

britzman wrote:I am underwhelmed with its sound quality. It sounds like flat and souless, like background music in cheesy usedcar commercial. When Japanese people use it, it sounds especially ugly.

http://youtu.be/W73aOW-wdcs

The only use I can think of is teaching kids how to make a beat.

Really lame product, korg. You could at least milk some personality out of the previous tribes, this is just a childish light show. Even the volcas are cheaper yet have more far more character and versatility. I'd be embarrassed to gig with this.

Wevs lad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNwmUBUmNtU

doesn't sound crap to me!

p.s that yamada guy makes the TR8 sound like it processes beats out of a jug.

this is indeed a competent set, and the guy looks like he is having tons of fun. out in the open and all, just dope.

i have to be me though and say it timbrewise still does not verve away from the demo tracks.
even with my limited experience with the box, i can pick out the sounds he was using. its just middle of the road stuff. i´ll stop now.

i am honestly looking forward to hear what more extensive and clever layering might bring out. i got tons of mileage from emx drums that way.

Blah blah blah! yeah we get it YOU couldn't get a 'good' sound out the box yada yada......shiver me timbres poo poo guff guff! Go on name the exact things being done an used after your 'limited' time with the box. It doesnt mean anything just saying it ya know! middle of the road or experimental...you decide you obvs couldn't make anything quite like that with the unit so it's a hard read when you say this. Like smelling someone elses fart and claiming you can pick out the previous nights breakfast helpings in one whiff.

My retort to the previous post of the unit sounding flat was to boost this vid. Which 'doesn't' sound flat.

A little imagination goes a long way with the E2. I've never used an EMX so I can't compare the experience, but I have owned a Dr. Groove 202, and this thing is actually similar to the Dr. Grooves drum sounds (which I think are pretty nice), and the work flow is a million times better than the 202s. A lot of people seem to be experiencing minor technical difficulties within the filters and fx that I can understand could probably be obnoxious when trying to get into the specifics of what you want in your track, but as it is you can still make some pretty amazing stuff out of what this thing has to offer if you give it some time.

Not Aimed at Anyone Specifically:

The electribe 2 is a goddamned Rorschach test wrapped in a candy mirror shell.

Creative people are enjoying it creatively.
People who are hung up on specs are ranting about the specs falling short.
Sound designers are praising the more abstract oscillators.
Bland amateur EDM producers are complaining about the sound being "flat."
Optimistic people are looking forward to The Great Firmware Update.
People who are unwilling to dive in and learn are complaining it does not work.
Smart technical people are exploiting tricks and uncovering techniques.
Lazy "press play" DJs are totally unable to cope with 4 bars.

Your reaction to this totally valid and groovy sequel to the EMX has everything to do with who you are.

Everyone knows it could use some fixes and features. But jump into a forum and declare that it's a flop or junk or a toy and expect pushback.

Fence-Sitters lurk and read. Why spook them and turn your negative declarations into a self-fulfilling prophecy?

Put this thing in the hands of 1980s-era producers, they'd worship you like a god.

Ted3000 wrote:Not Aimed at Anyone Specifically:

The electribe 2 is a goddamned Rorschach test wrapped in a candy mirror shell.

Creative people are enjoying it creatively.
People who are hung up on specs are ranting about the specs falling short.
Sound designers are praising the more abstract oscillators.
Bland amateur EDM producers are complaining about the sound being "flat."
Optimistic people are looking forward to The Great Firmware Update.
People who are unwilling to dive in and learn are complaining it does not work.
Smart technical people are exploiting tricks and uncovering techniques.
Lazy "press play" DJs are totally unable to cope with 4 bars.

Your reaction to this totally valid and groovy sequel to the EMX has everything to do with who you are.

Everyone knows it could use some fixes and features. But jump into a forum and declare that it's a flop or junk or a toy and expect pushback.

Fence-Sitters lurk and read. Why spook them and turn your negative declarations into a self-fulfilling prophecy?

Put this thing in the hands of 1980s-era producers, they'd worship you like a god.

And righteous fanboys are defending it with religious fervour..
Each to their own, just because it blows your mind doesn't mean it's fills everyone's tastes or expectations..

You labelling people as uncreative because they don't like the sounds is just bull mate.
If anything people that are creative feel limited by the lack of skope in this unit, it's a walled playground and much more limited than the original emx in synthesis. Just because you may use a synth a certain way doesn't mean other people do.

Creative people are enjoying it creatively.
-insinuating that people who complain are uncreative..
People who are hung up on specs are ranting about the specs falling short.
-or people that are limited by shortcomings are complaining about them..
Sound designers are praising the more abstract oscillators.
-sound designers are also complaining about the lack of synthesis options..
Bland amateur EDM producers are complaining about the sound being "flat."
-haven't heard this one..
Optimistic people are looking forward to The Great Firmware Update.
-meh
People who are unwilling to dive in and learn are complaining it does not work.
-there are serious issues with gaps and clicking envelopes, but in your head they are just "unwilling" to learn!? Why don't korg just fix these issues, but you consider this as a litmus test for "real" users I suppose?..
Smart technical people are exploiting tricks and uncovering techniques.
-I guess that makes everyone smart technical people as you have to exploit tricks to get the best out of these boxes..
Lazy "press play" DJs are totally unable to cope with 4 bars.
-your arrogance is amazing my friend.. If anything it's not djs, but people who want more complex arrangements to evolve over a longer measure than be limited to a 4 bar pattern.

I'm just pointing out that you come across as a bit of a dick, but I know your type.. You will probably not even consider anything I've said and just shrug it off as someone who doesn't understand or is not "on your level" whatever that may be.

Have you ever considered that maybe you don't use the emx2 to the level of other people and that's why your so happy with it? I'm not saying this is the case but it may just be so..

Again just because it makes you so happy, doesn't mean everyone should share your opinion.

And getting upset because it may scare away new buyers? Wtf?! Maybe this information might save some kid wasting his hard earned money on something that might not fulfil what he needs, I don't understand why protecting korgs new potential sales is so important a to you?

Korg is just fine, probably stronger than they've been in years. You should be concerned about protecting the user and buyer instead.

Ted3000 wrote:Not Aimed at Anyone Specifically:

The electribe 2 is a goddamned Rorschach test wrapped in a candy mirror shell.

Creative people are enjoying it creatively.

would you rather be creative with mspaint on windows10 or Photoshop7 on xp? That is how I see it compared to the emx.

Most every video I've watched is incredibly generic and lifeless because they took a step back in the freedom to create. I wish this wasn't geared towards the "bland edm producer" you critique, but it is.

The Electribe 2 is NOT a successor to the EMX. It is part of the Electribe family and is as relevant as any other member of that family. It's not perfect but it should be taken as it is, warts and all. And even with warts, it can be a musically useful and inspiring tool. Surely that's the bottom line.

If people want to in some way "guide" prospective buyers, then surely the best way is to demonstrate. SO POST YOUR TRACKS MADE WITH THE ELECTRIBE 2. Show people what it can do in the hands of mere mortals!! If i was hoping to buy one, yep i'd check out the flashy Korg demos for sure, but i'd be grateful for a stash of links to music made by folks just like me. Some of it may not be to my taste but i'd get a feel for it's sound palette and what it could do, which would be... useful?

Here is a link to a well established thread which seems to be visited often. Get posting people...


http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... hp?t=94479