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anti-life wrote:My question:

did they removed MOTORIZED tilt screen? and now you have to use hand to bring the screen up and down?

because I dont see the button for that like Pa3x-76.

Thanks.

Korg has Pa4X manually adjust the position of the display.
Korg pa4X own and figured I position. There are over 9!
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congan2 wrote:what is the start load time for Korg Pa4x, 1 minute or less?





my Korg pa4X starts just in 1 minute and 34 seconds
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Sam CA wrote:What about Sample compression feature? If still present, how's that going to affect the 400 MB user sampling ....? Is it up to 400 MB using the compression...?


Korg has Pa3X following enlargement tool 256/512 MB RAM memory.

This means when you tool notifies that the vacancy is no longer (256 megabytes) Then If you use the - function compress wav sample specimens thus saving about half the memory. (120 megabytes) This means that this practice reached after repeated use 512 megabytes of RAM memory wav samples. Although RAM has a capacity - factory designation 256 megabytes!



Korg Pa4X this option (for now) has a maximum amount of wav samples it is only 400 megabytes
Korg Pa3X has a capacity of 512 megabytes wav samples.! !
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newkorgguy wrote:
Bachus wrote:Can you play samples from SD memmory, HD or USB stick?
That would be cool, but I don't think they will give us that much for as little as $5k arranger :P
What about Sample compression feature? If still present, how's that going to affect the 400 MB user sampling ....? Is it up to 400 MB using the compression...?
My guess , 128MB on board (fixed) + 256MB removable/upgradable (total 384MB out of the box ~ 400MB)
With compression option we can get close to 800MB :P


I read the manual and information on the possibility of RAM are not there in terms of exchange of RAM, the possibility of enlargement, nor have I found information on the function of compressing WAV samples.

NO THEY ARE NOT. And if there is no will claim abbot so please let him tell you the page number in the manual !!



Korg Pa3X information available. 128 MB RAM and 256 megabytes compression wav
PAM 256 megabytes to 512 megabytes compression wav capacity.



Korg Pa4X - - - only 400 megabytes and compression ?????? missing information - or can not be.
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AntonySharmman wrote:
Sam CA wrote:
newkorgguy wrote:
My guess , 128MB on board (fixed) + 256MB removable/upgradable (total 384MB out of the box ~ 400MB)
With compression option we can get close to 800MB :P
Yes but you see they didn't mention anything about "up to 800 MB" deal at all. Strange a bit...
My guess is , from 1 GB (or maybe 2) of CPU board peripheral permanent Ram only 400 Mb
are available for custom PCM since all the rest of Ram capacity is occupied for pre-loading this
huge factory library that must fully dropped in Ram while into none-streaming old technology.
If no compression is supported (that I strongly believe) Pa3X owners will loose 112 Mb of custom samples !
Not to mention Ram loading time or memory preserve method !






exactly:
Korg Pa3X Option 1: RAM 128 MB (factory option) max 256 megabytes with the function of compression. and it can be exchanged !!! No + additional RAM (only replacement piece by piece.)


Korg Pa3X Option 2: Remove 128 MB RAM and replaced by a new 256 MB RAM (final maximum capacity of 512 megabytes wav samples.


Korg Pa4X: removing RAM ????? This manual does not give an indication !!!!
                         possibility of replacement - replacing RAM ????????? This manual does not give an indication !!!!
so Korg Pa4X while 400 megabytes of RAM uncompressed wav samples.
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korgpask wrote:
Bachus wrote:a community topic where everyone can ask questions about the Pa4x while others answer them... Nicely in one place..



There is one insert effect for the keyboard parts, is this one insert effect for each part or one effect shared by all 4 parts?

Can you have more then 1 splitpoint?

Can you play samples from SD memmory, HD or USB stick?
There can not be more than 1 thus split into two zones.

But there is a possibility to make user sound with the number of zones you need.

No, you are wrong.
You can have MORE THAN ONE split points, by adjusting the Upper and Lower Note Limits for each of the Upper1-2-3 & Lower parts.
This applies to each STS or Performance or Keyboard Set.

More on that, you can always follow a similar strategy on your sound's programming.

These items are not new.
You can do this at least from the PA1 era...

PA4X reads PA3X compressed data.
But...
It seems that there is a bug there.
One-shot samples are being uncompressed and played back correctly.
Whilst LOOPED samples, randomly DO NOT.
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korgpask wrote:
Bachus wrote:a community topic where everyone can ask questions about the Pa4x while others answer them... Nicely in one place..



There is one insert effect for the keyboard parts, is this one insert effect for each part or one effect shared by all 4 parts?

Can you have more then 1 splitpoint?

Can you play samples from SD memmory, HD or USB stick?





There can not be more than 1 thus split into two zones.

But there is a possibility to make user sound with the number of zones you need.
Yes i know... But that requires a huge amount of effort...

I would have loved to see that feature also available with all internal sounds any time when i just sit down and play...
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Removed, but not big issue.
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less than a minute
korgpask wrote:
congan2 wrote:what is the start load time for Korg Pa4x, 1 minute or less?





my Korg pa4X starts just in 1 minute and 34 seconds
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Hi Friends:

As few members could test new PA4x, some critisize are unfair.-
Most manufactures don't put all in manual, sometimes because the market hurrys them up, so unintentionally they omit hide functions.-
Manuals - although incomplete - give us an idea of what will do the product, but in our case, surelly after it's introduce in market, may be software upgrades of SO, that will correct actual missing functions. This had happend with lots of brands, and Korg is not an exeption, and allways upgrades appear (sooner o later).-
I've reading some aspect on Advance manual, as Multisamples list, and being honest, it's more extensive than M3, so this lets me suppose EDS X engine is more powerfull than my one.-
Bachus: First i think "this man is a lazzy", but later i rethink "he is too anxious".- I know that most arranger users choose this type of kyb because inmediately then can play decent music. But take in count that more powerfull is the keyboads SO, more time you must invest "to get all the juice".- Great keyboardist invest (as well as money) lots of hours to reach or create the sound they want, or to create a pattern; it's a rule acepted for any musician: music requires investing time and effort.-
Korg instruments since the begining of 90's are the most flexible ones in the market, no other brand (keyboard manufacturer) gives you this sound flexibility, and in the easy way as Korg.- Please try developing a complex sound (multilayer) on Roland, Nord, Kursweill, and then we'll talk about.-
With regards.
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Hello Guys,
Does Pa4X has some good combination sounds or ARP (Apreggio Sounds Set) like Kronos or at leat some of the combination that we can use for Techno or Disco Dance....? Can they have Strum Guitar with-out any technics to play it as well.
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Korg Pa4X 76 + 300 MB wav samples in RAM = 1:34 time :D
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As few members could test new PA4x, some critisize are unfair.-
Most manufactures don't put all in manual, sometimes because the market hurrys them up, so unintentionally they omit hide functions.-
Manuals - although incomplete - give us an idea of what will do the product, but in our case, surelly after it's introduce in market, may be software upgrades of SO, that will correct actual missing functions. This had happend with lots of brands, and Korg is not an exeption, and allways upgrades appear (sooner o later).-
I've reading some aspect on Advance manual, as Multisamples list, and being honest, it's more extensive than M3, so this lets me suppose EDS X engine is more powerfull than my one.-
Bachus: First i think "this man is a lazzy", but later i rethink "he is too anxious".- I know that most arranger users choose this type of kyb because inmediately then can play decent music. But take in count that more powerfull is the keyboads SO, more time you must invest "to get all the juice".- Great keyboardist invest (as well as money) lots of hours to reach or create the sound they want, or to create a pattern; it's a rule acepted for any musician: music requires investing time and effort.-
Korg instruments since the begining of 90's are the most flexible ones in the market, no other brand (keyboard manufacturer) gives you this sound flexibility, and in the easy way as Korg.- Please try developing a complex sound (multilayer) on Roland, Nord, Kursweill, and then we'll talk about.-
With regards.
Eduardo
Nicely said Eduardo :D
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korgpask wrote:Korg Pa4X 76 + 300 MB wav samples in RAM = 1:34 time :D
thats bad, Tyros 5 with 2GB samples is 5 secconds
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Bachus wrote:
korgpask wrote:Korg Pa4X 76 + 300 MB wav samples in RAM = 1:34 time :D
thats bad, Tyros 5 with 2GB samples is 5 secconds
To be honest, there is nothing good i see/hear about pa4, comparing to pa3 and giving them 5 years to figure out something better. Unless they are not telling us everything.
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