Official statement on the status and future of the OASYS

przemm · Post by **przemm** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 4:55 am

This is the longest and most fruitless threat on this forum. I was a bit suprized when Korg announced that they had decided to stop the development but is seems to me that some people are overreacting.

Would I want to have a better sequencer in Oasys - sure! But I don't. More EXis - yes! But probably I will not have any of them. We can only rant about EXf that Korg advertised but telling the truth what effect do you really need that is not present in Oasys? Is there any effect missing that blocks your creativity? Oasys gave us some beautiful effects that surpass many stock plugs in DAW sequencers. Want more? Buy an Eventide box and enjoy the quality and quantity that no workstation/DAW could deliver.

There are always some limits we have to live with. Oasys helped me to write some great music. I also learned a lot about sound synthesis and created many unique sounds. It sounds great, its interface and controllers are very user-friendly. That's what counts for me. It will sound great today, tomorrow or in 2 years - no matter if it is further developed or not - I am sure that Oasys sounds will have much use in my future productions. There are many new sounds out there that I haven't even tried so far (Karo libraries).

I don't post here there often but I read the forum regularly - why? Because of the people like Daz, Martin, Stephen and many others whose posts are very helpful, informative and polite. That is really rare these days. Please respect them for their contribution!

SoulBe · Post by **SoulBe** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:25 pm

przemm wrote:I don't post here there often but I read the forum regularly - why? Because of the people like Daz, Martin, Stephen and many others whose posts are very helpful, informative and polite. That is really rare these days. Please respect them for their contribution!

+1

and again.... everything is said.
Enjoy our instrument and the announcements of KARO of further libraries.

SoulBe

weymouthfox · Post by **weymouthfox** » Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:17 pm

Maybe Korg could promise us a sequencer update in 12 months time when the economy has picked up???
Im more than happy to wait a year if I know I its defiantly coming at some point.
Theres no reason at all why Korg cant continue support when the economy is moving again??

MartinHines · Post by **MartinHines** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 12:10 am

weymouthfox wrote:Maybe Korg could promise us a sequencer update in 12 months time when the economy has picked up???

I wouldn't count on it. After a product is discontinued, most companies have their resources work on other projects.

weymouthfox wrote:Theres no reason at all why Korg cant continue support when the economy is moving again??

The "reason" is it just isn't cost effective, especially for a discontinued product (i.e. a product that Korg is no longer selling and making money off of).

I would not ever expect a sequencer update.

If you aren't satified with the current OASYS sequencer, I would recommend ditching the internal sequencer and use a personal computer based sequencer (e.g. Apple Logic, Yamaha/Steinberg Cubase, Ableton Live, Cakewalk Sonar).

weymouthfox · Post by **weymouthfox** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:27 am

Thanks.

I do actually use Logic in the studio but like to get away from there at times and write on the Oasys at home.
The official statement did basically say that they needed to channel resourses on other things while the recession is on.

Surely they can do this for us when the economic situation looks brighter ???
After all, this was there reason for not being able to offer it to us now.

We did invest an awful lot of money in this and have been requesting it for a few years so Korg should make it a priority when they are financially better off.

StephenKay · Post by **StephenKay** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:52 am

weymouthfox wrote:Surely they can do this for us when the economic situation looks brighter ???
After all, this was there reason for not being able to offer it to us now.

I'm sure that if there is a way to channel something they are working on for some other future product into an update, they would consider it - but you have to understand that historically, it would be very rare for Korg to release a major update with new features (and not just a bug fix) for a product that was discontinued a year earlier. For most companies, moving forwards means just that. So I wouldn't count on it.

Daz · Post by **Daz** » Sat Jun 06, 2009 7:03 pm

weymouthfox wrote:The official statement did basically say that they needed to channel resourses on other things while the recession is on.

It does read that way, but sadly I think the reality is that the Oasys software will no longer be updated (barring critical bug fixes presumably). That really ticks me off big time but I see no point in saying any more about it than I have already in this thread, 'cos the story isn't going to change just because of what I say. It won't change because of what 20 people here are saying either.

If there were 1000 Oasys owners with something to say about it, that would be a different matter possibly. Supposedly there are 3000 owners, not many of those post here or read the forum I would guess. So there are a lot people that don't even know the Oasys is discontinued and neither do they seem to be curious to find out why they haven't heard of any new developments for this instrument they invested so much in.

Many of the owners will have had to use korguser.net at some point so maybe they visit that site periodically, but there is nothing there about the Oasys being discontinued. So there are an awful lot of people who don't know, don't care to know, or just don't care. Someone mentioned Korg sending out an email to registered Oasys owners or possibly a mailing as they did with the EXs3. I feel that would have been appropriate, but as that hasn't happened (and most likely won't), then this is just a little secret between us and it's truly an exercise in futility to continue to wish that things were otherwise. It's over. It's time to make new plans about how to get the most out of the many capabilities the Oasys has and to think how any holes in your sound palette or music making workflow might be filled with other products that are available.

It's really sad the Oasys ended this way, but is our great fortune to have an instrument of this quality that simply isn't available from other sources. In guitar land there are a bunch of premium quality brands. Less so in synth land, and especially for this type of product. This was the PRS or high end Martin of workstations/synths, and now people don't have access to something of this quality level any more. So we are both uniquely fortunate and very unfortunate at the same time. The choice to make, for the betterment of your music making, is which one of those you chose to focus on from here on.

My 2c.

Kontrol49 · Post by **Kontrol49** » Sun Jun 07, 2009 1:31 pm

Supposedly there are 3000 owners, not many of those post here or read the forum So there are a lot people that don't even know the Oasys is discontinued and neither do they seem to be curious to find out why they haven't heard of any new developments for this instrument they invested so much in.

In some cases possibly,but I'm an Oasys owner and member in here,yet am not in the Karma Labs forums,and would say there are vice versa members,many owners I would suspect maybe don't post or are not members of the Forums I'd say they certainly read,or are aware of Internet info.

Somehow irrespective of the owners using the designated Forums or not,I find that last point rather odd to comprehend that many buyers would simply have bought it without any further intentions of finding out about Growth of the System given the intentions of an open purpose and the Price and the large decision to buy into such a Machine,I'd be very suprised that nobody ever bought it without researching or not wanting to find out of its progress after buying.

It is sad its come to a close,not only from a User point of view but also Korgs decision to pull it,I'm sure I'm not alone in thinking it could have had so much more,whilst I'm happy with what it contains and am still hooked on it sound quality and engines,feel it maybe is Half finished,not because of what we were promised,but in the developments we have seen that are making the Workstation concept all the more Exciting for future plans,most certainly as an owner I'd like to see the Oasys system be an example to set the rest of the Workstation world on fire.

Its also interesting to see what Korgs Next step into this development will be or whether they will ever venture into this type of luxury machine again or simply filter the knowledge and technology gained along the way into many lower end devices like they did with the original Oasys project?

Daz · Post by **Daz** » Sun Jun 07, 2009 7:08 pm

Kontrol49 wrote:I find that last point rather odd to comprehend that many buyers would simply have bought it without any further intentions of finding out about Growth of the System given the intentions of an open purpose and the Price and the large decision to buy into such a Machine,I'd be very suprised that nobody ever bought it without researching or not wanting to find out of its progress after buying.

Makes you think doesn't it and like you say some of the conclusions are hard to comprehend.

pegnafroy · Post by **pegnafroy** » Sun Jun 07, 2009 9:45 pm

Due to the last comments in this thread, can anyone lock it, since some users have posted insulting and fruitless posts. The Oasys is discontinued, and many users spend more time posting here than making music with the Oasys. So where is the point to maintain this thread open and marked at top??? Is sad, since if i could had an Oasys i'll be so much fortunate.

Un abrazo a todos.

Froilán

Davidb · Post by **Davidb** » Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:49 pm

weymouthfox wrote:Maybe Korg could promise us a sequencer update in 12 months time when the economy has picked up???

In fact, I can tell you I´m aware of a written request that its being prepared and signed with their names and Series Numbers from a group of OASYS users, both 76 and 88, that will be presented soon to Korg INC and Korg USA asking for a Sequncer Upgrade when it may be possible.

I´ll let anyone interested know more about it by PM.

weymouthfox wrote:Theres no reason at all why Korg cant continue support when the economy is moving again??

As some fellows have said, theres not any clue in Korgs comment in this regard.

And let me point out something once more.
Every post here has the same 20 to 40 people posting regularly.

And neverthelles A lot of users , and not only a "bunch" of 20 of them, along the past years, expected a sequencer update at some point, and expressed it in one way or another in different threads all this time, its something being requested from the very first stages of the OASYS plattform.

This thread is not the only one where this subject has been descussed. Use the search fuction and you will see that the topics related to the OASYS Sequencer and its posssible updates has the most views and responses over the last four years... And theres not only 20 users posting in this regard all this time.

And even if so, (which it isnt) theres 20 over 50 to 70 regularly people posting, which is a fair great number, if you ask me.
So lets be serious about it.

weymouthfox · Post by **weymouthfox** » Mon Jun 08, 2009 12:27 am

Good stuff David, please PM me the details.

Most Oasys users dont even post on here because either there not aware of this site, just too busy or internet forums just wouldn't appeal to them.
I know loads of people including a few Korg owners that wouldn't consider writing on here, a car forum or whatever else there interested in.

It doesn't mean that they wouldn't pay for a sequencer update if they were made aware of it by an email sent from Korg or by some other means.

weymouthfox · Post by **weymouthfox** » Mon Jun 08, 2009 12:49 am

pegnafroy wrote:Due to the last comments in this thread, can anyone lock it, since some users have posted insulting and fruitless posts. The Oasys is discontinued, and many users spend more time posting here than making music with the Oasys. So where is the point to maintain this thread open and marked at top??? Is sad, since if i could had an Oasys i'll be so much fortunate.

Un abrazo a todos.

Froilán

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Theres no need to lock it, just don't read it.

As you don't own an Oasys, you wouldn't know how we all feel having made such big investments.

t_tangent · Post by **t_tangent** » Mon Jun 08, 2009 2:01 am

Well said weymouthfox.

Pegnafroy, as you state, you don't have an OASYS so how can you possibly comment on other users feelings about Korg's decision to discontinue upgrading OASYS.

While I'm writing, I would also just like to put my name down on the list of users who would like to see Korg update the sequencer. Like everyone here, I am disappointed in Korg's decision to discontinue updating the OASYS, and I have stated my sentiment in a previous thread a while back. But like all of us I still hope that Korg's decision might change in the future when the economic climate improves. Oh well, only time will tell

That being said, even now whenever I am sitting in front of the O I thank my lucky stars for being able to use such a wonderful instrument.

Cheers All

rtucker55 · Post by **rtucker55** » Mon Jun 08, 2009 2:36 am

weymouthfox wrote:
pegnafroy wrote:Due to the last comments in this thread, can anyone lock it, since some users have posted insulting and fruitless posts. The Oasys is discontinued, and many users spend more time posting here than making music with the Oasys. So where is the point to maintain this thread open and marked at top??? Is sad, since if i could had an Oasys i'll be so much fortunate.

Un abrazo a todos.

Froilán
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Theres no need to lock it, just don't read it.

As you don't own an Oasys, you wouldn't know how we all feel having made such big investments.

Hi weymouthfox,

Earlier there were some posts between the post made by Daz and pegnafroy post that have been removed.

I don't know if you saw them or not but they have Kindy been removed due to my request to our gracious moderators.

The posts seemed to be a personal battle between two people, and even though they have merit, there was No Place for them to be in this thread.

I feel we have a healing process going on here that will only be cultivated by some positive thought processes. I think Davidb made a very good suggestion with the written request that is being prepared for Korg and I think that is a very logical way to move forward vs. people getting theirselves overly upset and blasting here. It really does not make sense to lose what drives us over a simple post in a thread on a forum.

Please everyone keep in mind why we continue to watch and contribute to this thread but lets do it with dignity and respect. I sincerely believe that those reasons are because we love our Oasys and we cannot accept what seems like the end. Well, it's not the end.

I just turned mine off after spending the day with it and I have to tell you it sounds just as good as it always has. It affected me the same way it always does by making me smile, changing the way I look at the day ahead, gives me the chance to learn something new each and every time I sit down with it.

I think we need to focus on the future and what we can do with our Oasys. And by all means let's get back to sharing the good things we learn from our machine. It seems that lately there have not been many posts in the Oasys area. We can change that if we want to.

Best regards,
Rick