Tats leaving Korg? This is Unofficial

[spaceman3]

Kevin I think it is rather arrogant to think everything is to be made to pro specs and marketed for pro users or prosumers. Maybe my perspective is different but I see these little devices some of you seem to despise so as gateway drugs. Made to the entry and low budget markets. I think from my point of view he did hit it out of the market, now if these were aimed at pros like you then I would have to take your view on things and say it was a sad sad attempt but like I said I do not think that is the case. I will stand by my comment of Hit it out of the park keeping in mind the market I figured they were made for. So I say again it isn'tTat's but the market that mad these decisions and they filled in the need just fine. I hope they make a fortune off them and invest a bit into the next Kronos, but with trends the way they are I am not holding my breath and certainly not attacking Tat's for it.

the issue isn't whether something is "pro spec" - or not. Any piece of equipment can be used by a "pro"

The issue isn't even the devices Korg have recently devoted themselves to - many of them are fine.

The issue is - they abandoned their legacy for this stuff. They shut down quality innovation for it. It's just like what happened in Yamaha synths in the late 90's.

Look at Korg's web site now. It's like a Casio web site. Just hpw many years have you been banging on about wanting a new workstation? It's quite a few. Why has it not happened? Because it's clear that "The Suits" moved into Korg around the time of the Kronos, and shut down a multitude of lines of deep experience and innovation in Korg.

I am not attacking Tats because of some emotive dislike of the guy. I genuinely see him as too blind to Korg's legacy to give a damn about it one way or the other. And now he's off - without a care in the world - as if he did us all some sort of big favour.


I've got to tell you - the obliviousness to this is staggering. It's as if 30 years of Korg innovation just didn't matter. Yamaha ditches their deep, rich legacy on an almost NASA-Apollo shutdown scale.

Korg have instigate the same dismantlement over the past 10 years with this guy at the helm, he jumps ship, and you are all licking his boots.

Where is Korg going ?? Answer that - and I'll shut up.

Nobodys licking boots.
You are just an immature little baby that is cranky and needs a nap.

[Bertotti]

Kevin I think it is rather arrogant to think everything is to be made to pro specs and marketed for pro users or prosumers. Maybe my perspective is different but I see these little devices some of you seem to despise so as gateway drugs. Made to the entry and low budget markets. I think from my point of view he did hit it out of the market, now if these were aimed at pros like you then I would have to take your view on things and say it was a sad sad attempt but like I said I do not think that is the case. I will stand by my comment of Hit it out of the park keeping in mind the market I figured they were made for. So I say again it isn'tTat's but the market that mad these decisions and they filled in the need just fine. I hope they make a fortune off them and invest a bit into the next Kronos, but with trends the way they are I am not holding my breath and certainly not attacking Tat's for it.

the issue isn't whether something is "pro spec" - or not. Any piece of equipment can be used by a "pro"

The issue isn't even the devices Korg have recently devoted themselves to - many of them are fine.

The issue is - they abandoned their legacy for this stuff. They shut down quality innovation for it. It's just like what happened in Yamaha synths in the late 90's.

Look at Korg's web site now. It's like a Casio web site. Just hpw many years have you been banging on about wanting a new workstation? It's quite a few. Why has it not happened? Because it's clear that "The Suits" moved into Korg around the time of the Kronos, and shut down a multitude of lines of deep experience and innovation in Korg.

I am not attacking Tats because of some emotive dislike of the guy. I genuinely see him as too blind to Korg's legacy to give a damn about it one way or the other. And now he's off - without a care in the world - as if he did us all some sort of big favour.


I've got to tell you - the obliviousness to this is staggering. It's as if 30 years of Korg innovation just didn't matter. Yamaha ditches their deep, rich legacy on an almost NASA-Apollo shutdown scale.

Korg have instigate the same dismantlement over the past 10 years with this guy at the helm, he jumps ship, and you are all licking his boots.

Where is Korg going ?? Answer that - and I'll shut up.

The part about abandoning their legacy I agree with 100% it does seem to be the case form my POV, but never the less I am not blaming it on Tat's. I could be wrong but I work for a Japanese company and you follow your walking orders or your gone, just the way it works. They don't like a lot of push back, funny I still have a job. But yes i agree it does seem like Korg corporate has abandoned their older legacy with the synths you mention.

[slug]

Seriously - Korg have not revolutionised anything in the past 10 years - all their gadgets are sitting on shelves.

...And then the reality is Korg has 7 out of 10 places on reverb.coms top 2016 sellers.

Congratulations, you are officially a FAKE NEWS source lol

[Joe Gerardi]

Seriously - Korg have not revolutionised anything in the past 10 years - all their gadgets are sitting on shelves.

...And then the reality is Korg has 7 out of 10 places on reverb.coms top 2016 sellers.

Congratulations, you are officially a FAKE NEWS source lol

Top selling does NOT mean innovative or revolutionary. The best selling vehicle in the world is the Ford F150 pickup- anyone think that's an innovative or revolutionary vehicle? Anyone think an iPhone is a revolutionary device?

Taken in your context, Coca-Cola is the most revolutionary product out there- more of it is sold than any other product in the world.

..Joe

[Kevin Nolan]

Also, it's amazing how little understanding you have for the fact that not everyone enjoys making and listening to music the way you do.

No s**t. But try to reason with a stubborn Eire and that's what you get, heh. They ALWAYS have to be right. Even when they aren't.

Interesting to see racism alive an kicking from EvilDragon - and being tolerated on this forum I might add!

[SanderXpander]

Are the Irish a race now?

[John01W]

Also, it's amazing how little understanding you have for the fact that not everyone enjoys making and listening to music the way you do.

No s**t. But try to reason with a stubborn Eire and that's what you get, heh. They ALWAYS have to be right. Even when they aren't.

Interesting to see racism alive an kicking from EvilDragon - and being tolerated on this forum I might add!

You're really scraping the bottom of the barrel to jump to "racist" Kevin. Oh you're such a victim......pathetic, really. I'm part Irish, yes I'm stubborn and proud, guess what.....I like to drink too Get over it, GOOD GRIEF! Irish is a race? I thought it was a nationality

[EvilDragon]

If that's racist I'm the pope. It's a personality trait, a stereotype of a particular nation (hey - Scots are even more stubborn!) perhaps, but nothing else. Certainly not racism. LOL.

[John01W]

Seriously - Korg have not revolutionised anything in the past 10 years - all their gadgets are sitting on shelves.

...And then the reality is Korg has 7 out of 10 places on reverb.coms top 2016 sellers.

Congratulations, you are officially a FAKE NEWS source lol

Top selling does NOT mean innovative or revolutionary. The best selling vehicle in the world is the Ford F150 pickup- anyone think that's an innovative or revolutionary vehicle? Anyone think an iPhone is a revolutionary device?

Taken in your context, Coca-Cola is the most revolutionary product out there- more of it is sold than any other product in the world.

..Joe

Not every product between the M1 and the OASYS was revolutionary....nor does a product have to be revolutionary to be an awesome product that's unique and capable in it's own right.....Korg has been releasing awesome products as of late. I have no use for the little boxes either but there's some GREAT work done there too in the midst of products they've been putting out. Kronos is awesome, it's an evolution from OASYS and certainly more capable....plenty of Korg quality and legacy in that thing, like a lot. Some folks are broken up that a successor to Kronos hasn't come in the usual Korg cycle. That's what a lot of this about.

[fcoulter]

No s**t. But try to reason with a stubborn Eire and that's what you get, heh. They ALWAYS have to be right. Even when they aren't.

Interesting to see racism alive an kicking from EvilDragon - and being tolerated on this forum I might add!

You're really scraping the bottom of the barrel to jump to "racist" Kevin. Oh you're such a victim......pathetic, really. I'm part Irish, yes I'm stubborn and proud, guess what.....I like to drink too Get over it, GOOD GRIEF! Irish is a race? I thought it was a nationality

Ethnicity.

[John01W]

Interesting to see racism alive an kicking from EvilDragon - and being tolerated on this forum I might add!

You're really scraping the bottom of the barrel to jump to "racist" Kevin. Oh you're such a victim......pathetic, really. I'm part Irish, yes I'm stubborn and proud, guess what.....I like to drink too Get over it, GOOD GRIEF! Irish is a race? I thought it was a nationality

Ethnicity.

Either way, comment wasn't racist.

[fcoulter]

Seriously - Korg have not revolutionised anything in the past 10 years - all their gadgets are sitting on shelves.

...And then the reality is Korg has 7 out of 10 places on reverb.coms top 2016 sellers.

Congratulations, you are officially a FAKE NEWS source lol

Top selling does NOT mean innovative or revolutionary. The best selling vehicle in the world is the Ford F150 pickup- anyone think that's an innovative or revolutionary vehicle? Anyone think an iPhone is a revolutionary device?

Taken in your context, Coca-Cola is the most revolutionary product out there- more of it is sold than any other product in the world.

..Joe

He was disputing your statement that Korg products were sitting on the shelf, not whether or not they were revolutionary. Factually, you were wrong and he provided evidence. They weren't sitting on the shelf.

Instead of admitting that you were wrong, you changed the subject. Whether they were revolutionary is a different issue, which he didn't refute.

Personally, I'm not sure how well revolutionary items actually sell. The GS1 was revolutionary. The DX1 was revolutionary. The DX7 sold like hot cakes, but was a popularization of the revolutionary synths.

The Xerox Alto was revolutionary. The Apple Lisa was revolutionary. The Macintosh sold like hot cakes, but was a popularization of the revolutionary computers.

Korg needs to sell stuff, not just design revolutionary items. Yes, I'd like them to push the boundaries more, but I'm a very small part of a very large market. Keyboards in general are a small part of a very large market. (Depressing but true. I want to a music festival in Daytona Beach a couple weeks ago. Only about 10% of the acts had keyboards.)

[Koekepan]

I'll make the case that the Volcas are, if not exactly revolutionary, at least innovative in one important respect.

Usability is a key aspect of any product, and usability features tend to cost money.

The Volcas are a) cheap b) portable.

This would lead one to believe that the ability to control them or get decent sounds out of them has been massively compromised.

This does not square with my experience.

They are quite controllable through their MIDI ports, resulting in a solid, repeatable sound.

Their outputs are quite usable for both recording and performance.

Even if you use each one as a single voice, this is a controllable, solid sounding monosynth for under $200 including a power supply.

Does it blow the minds of synthesists everywhere with its ground-breaking approach to synthesis? No, but as a product it is certainly innovative. It just doesn't happen to be the kind of innovation that makes headlines.

The Volca series pushes the boundaries on what we can expect on the cost/sound/control combination, and that is innovation. It is engineering innovation.

[Kevin Nolan]

No s**t. But try to reason with a stubborn Eire and that's what you get, heh. They ALWAYS have to be right. Even when they aren't.

Interesting to see racism alive an kicking from EvilDragon - and being tolerated on this forum I might add!

You're really scraping the bottom of the barrel to jump to "racist" Kevin. Oh you're such a victim......pathetic, really. I'm part Irish, yes I'm stubborn and proud, guess what.....I like to drink too Get over it, GOOD GRIEF! Irish is a race? I thought it was a nationality

So there are two racists on this thread.

And let's be clear - I don't feel a victim - that is your racist stance on it. Yoi can "qualify" such perspective all you want - but your true colours are clear to see, online.

[John01W]

Interesting to see racism alive an kicking from EvilDragon - and being tolerated on this forum I might add!

You're really scraping the bottom of the barrel to jump to "racist" Kevin. Oh you're such a victim......pathetic, really. I'm part Irish, yes I'm stubborn and proud, guess what.....I like to drink too Get over it, GOOD GRIEF! Irish is a race? I thought it was a nationality

So there are two racists on this thread.

And let's be clear - I don't feel a victim - that is your racist stance on it. Yoi can "qualify" such perspective all you want - but your true colours are clear to see, online.

You are embarrassing yourself.....man in a friendly sincere way, this is a bump to let you know that you're really showing your rear end. You need to "lighten up Francis".

BTW, though I claim Irish ancestry I'm American through and through...yes I'm slightly overweight and will have a hamburger tonight for supper.....a coke too ...just for you buddy lol.