NEW KORG GEAR !!!

X-Trade · Post by **X-Trade** » Wed Mar 24, 2010 8:29 pm

McHale wrote:WAIT WAIT WAIT.

If they can release an analog device for $67 with VCO, VCF, and LFO controls, and the same analog filter found in the Korg MS-10 and MS-20, why the hell doesn't my M3 have it?

Makes no sense to me. Because those exact same features with the M3's touch screen and/or ribbon controller could potentially be a monster!

A pure analog synthesizer is easy to implement. The problem comes when interfacing analog components with digital gear. I'm sure a simple pair of filters over the master output bus would be a bit boring, but polyphonic usage would require a DAC (and possibly ADC to get back into effects) for each filter, potentially for each voice. Then further DAC and ADC units to get the cutoff and resonance parameters from the program parameters in software out to the analog components.

This is partly why modern digitally controlled analog synths are so expensive. Another reason though is that you are paying more for analog technology because it is a niche market. I personally believe the sound can be almost perfectly replicated in software now. I don't have anything against analog, but I can get a much higher spec digital synth for the same price, often with similar results.

I do like your thinking though. A sampling workstation with pure analog filters would be incredible, although like I've mentioned above, i'd settle for a workstation with a number of models, including the MS20 and polysix filters from the legacy collection.

Shakil · Post by **Shakil** » Wed Mar 24, 2010 8:40 pm

Please tell me the MP10 has rechargable battery??!?!?

Post by **Sharp** » Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:27 pm

Shakil wrote:Please tell me the MP10 has rechargable battery??!?!?

I doubt it, but that would be some idea to an already very cool product.
I have a sneaking suspicion that this is going to be an insanely popular device.

Hope KORG managed to bring this in at a really good price.

Regards
Sharp.

mocando · Post by **mocando** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 12:50 am

Sharp wrote: lol.... Time to reverse the tables and say, but honey do you really need it.

Sharp.

HAHAHAHAHA

Vengeance is bliss, isn't it ?

mocando · Post by **mocando** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:27 am

Shakil wrote:Please tell me the MP10 has rechargable battery??!?!?

Just drop a pair of eneloop AAA and you are good to go.

TSUNAMI · Post by **TSUNAMI** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:44 am

Would be surprised to see this land at under £999 street ....

Sharp wrote:
Shakil wrote:Please tell me the MP10 has rechargable battery??!?!?
I doubt it, but that would be some idea to an already very cool product.
I have a sneaking suspicion that this is going to be an insanely popular device.

Hope KORG managed to bring this in at a really good price.

Regards
Sharp.

X-Trade · Post by **X-Trade** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:17 am

This is the only video i've found so far:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfqsoAnC5V4

My German is a little rusty. when I say 'a little rusty', I only understood the basic connectives and other simple words.

He did mention the polyphony but I didn't make out exactly what he said about it.

I assume it would be more or less the same for the microStation, maybe less poly for the micro?

I really want that giant inflatable wavedrum in the background!

Rockitman · Post by **Rockitman** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:54 pm

Thanks Sharp for the link to the Korg Site. Very informative. I think this new MP10 may be a great addition to my Korg collection. It's small enough that I might be able to hide it from the wife for awhile.

SMK · Post by **SMK** » Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:10 am

Sharp wrote:
TSUNAMI wrote:
I really like the thinking behind this product. I could see this being extremely useful for lots of different reasons.

Regards
Sharp.

I stumbled onto this thing neatly stashed in the Kaoss Pad section of their product menu but not quite sure why. It seems like korgs answer to iDJ or something of the sort I guess it is a mixer of some sort but there are only inputs for vocals. Okay!?! And I'm not quite sure what this thing really does that's so revolutionary for performers.

Are there any videos, demos on this thing?

SMK · Post by **SMK** » Fri Mar 26, 2010 7:12 am

mocando wrote:

AWESOME. I wonder how much it will cost.

Yeah...okay then

Get a nintendo DS then get the DS10 or DS10+ and then you will truly have a MS10 in your pocket!

But you know as an after thought (after watching the few youtube vids on this) it is sort of inspiring in the since that the simplicity of it make you really appreciate the gear you currently have and once over after you see a few people jam on this little thing, you start thinking to yourself "ah damn, I could be doing that!" and you eventually do it. After i saw the 2 or youtubes on this I pulled out my DS and started jamming.

SMK · Post by **SMK** » Fri Mar 26, 2010 7:19 am

mocando wrote:Well, it looks like is got to be this one:

Designed to satisfy the beginning or accomplished keyboardist, the Korg microSTATION Music Workstation offers unprecedented portability, the stunning sound of Korgs EDS-i synth engine, phenomenal effects, plus new and easy-touse sequencing tools. Audition riffs make finding just the right sound a breeze.

At a size and price usually reserved for performance synthesizers, the mircroSTATION provides all of the additional benefits of a full-featured Korg workstation. Compact and portable, the microSTATION none the less features our 61-key Natural Touch mini keyboard, numerous effects, dual arpeggiators, and a 16-track sequencer to transform musical ideas into polished productions ? wherever you are! New sequencer features such as Loop Recording and visual Grid Sequencing have been added to benefit the first-time workstation owner and to jump-start any type of music production.With so much power, the microSTATION is an ideal first keyboard, plus a welcome addition to any studio or keyboard
rig.

The microSTATION contains numerous programs and combinations ready for immediate use, and is ready for you to perform pro-quality sounds the moment you turn it on. 480 programs, 27 drum kits that can be used by drum programs as oscillators, and 256 combinations, each of which combine up to sixteen programs as layers, splits, or velocity switches, and then add effects and two arpeggiators to create complex sonic structures. For compatibility with other MIDI instruments, there are also 256 GM2 sounds and 9 GM2 drum kits. Programs, drum kits, and combinations are rewritable, and you can store 512, 32, and 384 of them respectively. So that you can easily find the desired sound from this extensive choice of sounds, the programs and combinations are organized into eight categories according to the type of sound. An audition switch is provided, allowing you to hear a repeating riff (phrase) appropriate for each sound when making a selection in Program mode, making it easy to grasp the character of the available sounds.
Features

* Lightweight, compact, and equipped with 61 mini-keys, the microSTATION travels easily and fits effortlessly into any home, stage, or studio workspace.
* EDS-i (Enhanced Definition Synthesis-integrated) sound engine delivers high-quality sound in the tradition of KORG's flagship music workstations.
* Enjoy 512 user programs (480 preloaded) and 384 user combinations (256 preloaded) as well as GM2 compatible preset programs and drum kits.
* Designed for comfort and accuracy, our 61-key Natural Touch Mini Keyboard is highly expressive and supports serious playing.
* High-performance 16-track sequencer records up to 128 songs and 210,000 notes.
* Template songs, Loop Recording, Grid Sequencing, Dual Arpeggiators, and Auto Song Setup functions provide a serious boost to creative song production.
* USB Type-B connector offers a direct MIDI computer connection.
* SD/SDHC card slot for convenient data storage.
* Includes both stand-alone and plug-in microSTATION software for detailed sound editing on your computer; plug-in software is VST, AU, and RTAS compatible.

Finally the ultimate Microkorg. I've been thinking about getting a microKorg but didn't like all of the limitations. This looks like a great addition to the Korg family.

Post by **Sharp** » Fri Mar 26, 2010 1:08 pm

SMK wrote: I stumbled onto this thing neatly stashed in the Kaoss Pad section of their product menu but not quite sure why. It seems like korgs answer to iDJ or something of the sort I guess it is a mixer of some sort but there are only inputs for vocals. Okay!?! And I'm not quite sure what this thing really does that's so revolutionary for performers.

Are there any videos, demos on this thing?

I stumbled onto this thing neatly stashed in the Kaoss Pad section of their product menu but not quite sure why. It seems like korgs answer to iDJ or something of the sort I guess it is a mixer of some sort but there are only inputs for vocals. Okay!?

Considering the market it's intended for, what other inputs do you need ?
It's not a recorder, and it's not a KAOSS PAD. It's for performers.

And I'm not quite sure what this thing really does that's so revolutionary for performers.

There's quite a lot actually that makes it very appealing. It's a tiny device that's got quite a lot self contained in one little package.

TC- Helicon FX with Vocal Harmon.
It has the ability to transpose mp3 files, or midi files.
It can time streach audio.
Has it's own EDS sound engine so it can double up as a sound module.
The EDS engine can also drive the Midi File playback.
Video out for Karaoke, parties and general craziness at home.

And so on.... but the most important thing is that it has impressed my wife so much that she wants one. For me that means revenge plan and simple.

lol.... Time to play it down and tell her I don't think we need dear.

Then at some point see if I can throw a guilt trip on her.
:3drofl:

Are there any videos, demos on this thing?

Haven't seen anything yet.
I'm sure when the guys get back from Germany we will start to see more on it.

Regards
Sharp.

Shakil · Post by **Shakil** » Fri Mar 26, 2010 11:13 pm

Sharp: It's a tiny device

MP10 is not that tiny..... 13" x 11"...

I really like it so far!!!

X-Trade · Post by **X-Trade** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 12:19 am

Managed to glean from the video link I posted earlier that the polyphony is a mere twenty notes. I think this is the same for the microSTATION and the PS60, possibly.

I also found some videos where they went through a number of the sounds:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNjf1NDjGPs (MP-10 & PS60 too)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErNruJIVldI

Definately has a cheaper sound quality than the M3 and M50, probably down to the samples. It probably does fit in league with the microKorg entry-level market. I'm pretty sure people who want a cheap entry level micro ROMpler will love this.

mocando · Post by **mocando** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 6:17 am

Well, I guess 48MB of wave data are not 256 on the M50 or 512 on the M3 EXP. But for the size, and price (I presume) is a killer deal.

What really doesn't convince me are mini keys. It might feel awkward to play on these mini keys and having to move your hands to a regular keys keybed (unless you use a microKORG XL). But if you are going to use it solo, it might just fit the bill.

Now that I think about it, a microSTATION paired to a microKORG XL might look like a set for midgets