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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:32 pm
by AK-Jake
A missing Kronos feature for me? No velocity pads.
sparkie wrote:The first time you play a show outdoors in the sun and it will become one of the largest problems ever... trust me
If you are standing up and playing ..such as a live performance or demo etc.. the screen is fine flat and easy to read..except for sunlight glare as vEddy mentions. However, sitting down at the keyboard your ability to read the screen is greatly diminished and I find myself looking at the screen at a 45 degree angle making it harder to read..eye strain etc. Of course, i guess this all of this depends on what height the keyboard is when you play. Think about looking at your PC Screen or laptop with the screen angle flat or slightly elevated? Or what about watching TV with the TV at a 45 degree angle?
All the mfgrs are now going to adjustable or elevated touch screens so I dont understand why Korg didnt keep what I thought was a good improvement for the keyboard. How much of a price savings was made by not doing so I wonder?
I've been playing shows in direct sunlight for years, and I've personally never needed a tilting-screen. In my experience, a
BRIGHT screen is more important than a tilting screen. Playing outdoors when I had my Motif XS7 was a nightmare...but that was the fault of the designers who put the LCD screen in it with almost ZERO viewing angle besides looking directly at it! That being said, I always stand when I play.
Not being a hater, just saying that a tilting screen would be nice, but I suspect a 50-50 like/don't-like ratio for the live players.
There's some great ideas on this thread, something for Korg to consider in future software updates. I especially like and agree with the ability to open PDF/text files in Set List, and I
LOVE the thought of being able to use the Korg NanoControllers with my Kronos via USB!!!!
I'm personally pretty damn impressed by what Korg is offering in the Kronos. It may not be a "game-changer' per se, but it's quite impressive and a nice step forward for the workstation market. Korg seems to have really listened to its users and put a lot of thought into the instrument. I look forward to checking it out...it'll fit nicely in my gig-rig, though I'll probably never sell my Triton Extreme 76!

Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 12:56 am
by xmlguy
mjames4208 wrote:i want a breath controller, like the one yamaha used to have on their synths.
i joined this forum in 2007 and this is my first post..... LOL
You're in luck. The Yamaha BC3 breath controller and Midi Solutions BC3 midi interface are both in stock and ready to ship.
http://keyboards-midi.musiciansfriend.c ... sku=420103
http://accessories.musiciansfriend.com/ ... D=40212648
If you asked this question in 2007, you might have had 4 years of breath expression on your synths.

It would help to have a modeled instrument to get the most impact with it, like a Z1, EXB-MOSS, VL70-M, or one of the softsynth models like from samplemodeling.com
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 6:37 pm
by Randelph
A way to change up the drum patterns like KARMA does. I know KARMA can play drums and do this, but I like the simplicity of the drum track for immediate access to grooves. Also, make saving a drum pattern to the user area a slam dunk. As implemented in the M3, it reminds me of the XS: convoluted workarounds that are a PITA! The desire is to save the drum patterns I like in the user area for easy retrieval (of course this assumes the Kronos handles the above like the M3 does).
A marketplace (similar to Motifator.com) for 3d party sounds and samples!
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Pads, definitely, but in the price vs features equation, I applaud how much they've managed to include in the Kronos at that price point.
Octave and Transpose buttons! I know the switches can be used for that, but I like to save them for other things.
USB stick that doesn't stick out perilously from the rear.
A 76 key unweighted version that goes from low A (like an 88 note) to the high C that 61 note boards have (or, alternately, 83 notes, the high note goes up to a G). Forget this nonsense of playing in a particular key with guitarists (they're a fickle bunch anyway): as a piano player, I need my lowest octave!!!! And put the ribbon/JS on top!
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 6:46 pm
by Scott
Randelph wrote:Octave and Transpose buttons! I know the switches can be used for that, but I like to save them for other things.
I think this could be an interesting alternate use for the Set List function. If you don't need instant access to a full screen's worth of sounds, you could program it so that some of the slots are merely octave-shifted or transposed versions of sounds in other slots, and that would give you one-button access to octave shifting and transposition without "using up" the switches.
Randelph wrote:A 76 key unweighted version that goes from low A (like an 88 note) to the high C that 61 note boards have
As I've been following related threads, it's interesting that it seems that the A-to-C 76-key layout is one that everyone seems to like. It is certainly very logical. I'm surprised no one does it!
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 7:21 pm
by Zeroesque
The Korg Kronos is clearly missing the most important synth feature of all:
My sounds.

Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 7:23 pm
by Zeroesque
Scott wrote:Randelph wrote:A 76 key unweighted version that goes from low A (like an 88 note) to the high C that 61 note boards have
As I've been following related threads, it's interesting that it seems that the A-to-C 76-key layout is one that everyone seems to like. It is certainly very logical. I'm surprised no one does it!
To be fair, I think CME does this. While I would really love that configuration, I don't think I'll use a CME.
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 8:27 pm
by T7
A per part, programmable arpeggiator independent of KARMA.

Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:27 pm
by SoulBe
Hi,
I suspect it takes you years to discover all the functions of the Kronos so I think .... nothing is missing there
regards
SoulBe
Re: Whats missing in KRONOS..
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:39 pm
by Timo
danatkorg wrote:T7 wrote:Timo wrote:I would have dearly love to have seen interpolation (smoothing) between knob values for stepper free knob twiddling. Come on Korg it's 2011, not 1995!
I remember reading about that in the SOS review of the Oasys. Have Korg confirmed this is still the case with Kronos?...Extremely dissapointing if it is.
Let me step into the wayback machine and take a trip back to 2006...wait just a minute....ok, fixed!
From the OASYS version 1.2 release notes:
Improved parameter smoothing
Since its initial release, OASYS has used several different smoothing processes to minimize "steppiness" on knobs, sliders, and controls. These processes have been further improved, via an adaptive smoothing algorithm.
Tone Adjust is now smoothed as well, so that you can use this Control Surface mode for performance as well as when editing. Many parameters are also now smoothed even when edited from the LCD.

Comments like this aren't going to do my bank balance any good.
Is the realtime knob interpolation for all engines or just the AL-1 or HD-1 or...?
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danatkorg wrote:
Timo wrote:decimator/pickup/hard-clip waveshaping (could be easily covered by effects, though), and I think the drive in AL-1 is fixed to post-filter as opposed to being switchable post/pre filter like on the Radias.
Again, true on all counts for the AL-1. For waveshaping (including clipping, drive, pickups, and lots more), including control over where they happen in the chain, look instead to the MOD-7.
Drive being either selectable pre/post filter, like on the Radias, was really quite a useful feature. Being able to place Drive before the filter stage allows you to drive the filter really hard so it filters all that saturated goodness and/or merely mellow it out a little.
I still have yet to digest Mod7, I've just downloaded the Oasys manual. I originally thought it was just an FM synth!
Thanks Dan.

Re: Whats missing in KRONOS..
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:58 pm
by dingo_klectos
Bachus wrote:With KRONOS being the top workstation on this globe you'd think people would be vey satisfied over the instrument, yet people allways want more...
So what do you think is missing from this lovely instrument
-Sequencer from M3, espescially the piano roll.
-MOSS technollogy
-RADIAS technollogy
-Processor Power and/or options to expand the current processor Power.
-Memory expansions for own sample sets
-Drumpads (physical and touch sensitive)
-The option to use PA series styles
-DNC controlled sounds
Thats allready quite a list adressed from diferent people on these forums...
Some most will agree on, other options are only missed by part of the population of these boards...
What do you think that they should have added to KRONOS but is currently missing?
Something other than the same old crappy sounds and Korgtunes. The KRONOS will make Roland realize that things aren't as bad as they thought afterall.
Re: Whats missing in KRONOS..
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:17 pm
by danatkorg
Timo wrote:Is the realtime knob interpolation for all engines or just the AL-1 or HD-1 or...?
It applies to all engines.
Best regards,
Dan
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 7:17 pm
by dingo_klectos
KRONOS is what you get when you cross a Trident with a MonoPoly and season with a little Karma. Any way you look at it. Epic Fail!!!!
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 9:57 pm
by jimknopf
Great to hear, Dan!
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:32 pm
by T7
dingo_klectos wrote:KRONOS is what you get when you cross a Trident with a MonoPoly and season with a little Karma. Any way you look at it. Epic Fail!!!!
Mental illness is a terrible thing, you have my sympathies. Please seek professional help.
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 9:57 am
by ozy
T7 wrote:Please seek professional help.
yeah, from Molly the Redhead.
Dingo, you need a sexual life!