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Re: editor 2
Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 7:13 pm
by Comrad_Durandal
lotty1 wrote:Hi every one I have just sent an email to korg requesting a release date for kronos editor 2 so it will be interesting to see if the even bother to reply

...or that they'd violate their internal company policy just for you to give you an answer for something they might not even know themselves?
Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 7:59 pm
by SoundQuest
Kronik wrote:But I can't get it out of my mind that both Roland and Yamaha are ahead of the game with iPad editors for their flagship synths.
But then again, they don't have to handle 9 engines

You are aware that, in the case of the Yamaha Mix editor, that you are saying that an editor which edits only 4 of the over 50 parameters per channel, doesn't store data, and you have to purchase, is better than software which edits all of the KRONOS parameters, stores data, and is free.
I could go on but I'll leave it at that.
Re: editor 2
Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 8:25 pm
by lotty1
Comrad_Durandal wrote:lotty1 wrote:Hi every one I have just sent an email to korg requesting a release date for kronos editor 2 so it will be interesting to see if the even bother to reply

...or that they'd violate their internal company policy just for you to give you an answer for something they might not even know themselves?
My thoughts were that people on this site seem to be concerned about the release date as I am. So the best thing to do is ask korg directly to find out what's going on

Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 12:38 am
by ahutnick
Actually wouldn't SoundQuest be the one to be contacted? I do hope for the editor to be released soon but will gladly wait for one that works. The Kronos is a deep machine so creating an editor that really works will take some doing.
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 6:58 am
by MRedZac
SoundQuest wrote:Kronik wrote:But I can't get it out of my mind that both Roland and Yamaha are ahead of the game with iPad editors for their flagship synths.
But then again, they don't have to handle 9 engines

You are aware that, in the case of the Yamaha Mix editor, that you are saying that an editor which edits only 4 of the over 50 parameters per channel, doesn't store data, and you have to purchase, is better than software which edits all of the KRONOS parameters, stores data, and is free.
I could go on but I'll leave it at that.
Don't discuss, better to keep release dates instead, SoundQuest, and do not critizise other manufacturers editors... At least these are working well and were delivered in time with up to date specs, even if not all parameters are supported... First make it better, then critizise !
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 11:53 am
by raik87
+1
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 1:33 pm
by neomad
neomad wrote:Old soundquest editors (as midiquest) use to integrate a Librarian function. Up to date, we need to 'complete' 1.xx editor with great soft as PCG tools (free thanks to Michael).
Questions:
1 - will new editor add a librarian function to avoid user to delete or move patches?
2- will new editor allow total recall and 64 bits operation?
3- will new editor add a AL-1 analog kind GUI (as our friend creates again, for free)
4- most important question: will add SOME value ?
Soundquest, if you want to answer also these few questions that will be great.
Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 12:33 am
by SoundQuest
Actually, I had no intention of criticizing the other editors. That was not my intent at all.
There are NDAs with Korg so I can't discuss unreleased product, release dates or anything along those lines.
Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 12:34 am
by SoundQuest
Actually, I had no intention of criticizing the other editors. That was not my intent at all.
There are NDAs with Korg so I can't discuss unreleased product, release dates or anything along those lines (which should come as no surprise).
Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 1:03 am
by Chriskk
SoundQuest wrote:Actually, I had no intention of criticizing the other editors. That was not my intent at all.
You (SoundQuest) criticized Yamaha's editor. What was your intent when posting that message?
Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 2:14 am
by blinkofanI
Dudes,
Give the guy some slack. You want him to never come back here? Nobody knows what they had to work with. It's pretty easy to criticize. The recent posts here just show it, don't you think?
I don't like that editor either but i just don't use it, that's all. MHO.
Blink
Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 2:33 pm
by motic
People.... you really think that all that "talking about it" will speed up the process???
Come on....!... jeeezz!
Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 3:46 pm
by jeebustrain
blinkofanI wrote:Dudes,
Give the guy some slack. You want him to never come back here? Nobody knows what they had to work with. It's pretty easy to criticize. The recent posts here just show it, don't you think?
I don't like that editor either but i just don't use it, that's all. MHO.
Blink
this. It's just a software editor. It's not like Soundquest and Korg are trying to punch your mom. Go have a Coke and a smile and settle down. No matter what/when is released it's inevitably going to piss somebody off. I'm not an apologist by any means, but I've large worked IT projects for years (I'm sure some of those have had waaay bigger budgets than what is there for this editor) and have seen much bigger delays and feature retractions than this. I'm sure there have been some missteps along the way, but it's this stuff isn't magic. People make posts on here insinuating that these companies have delays and release software with missing features/bugs on purpose. Do you actually live in the real world? Why would a company do that? The Kronos is perfectly usable inside a DAW now (I and many others use it just fine) and a whole lot of users are somehow able to build/edit thousands of sounds by using the Kronos UI itself (and the editor as it is).
Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:55 pm
by Francois
Mr SoundQuest is right re Yamaha's editors. Everybody knows that if you want the best editors/librarians for your Motif, you need to buy John Melas's products.
Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:26 pm
by JFree
Personally I don't buy something on speculation of what it may or may not someday be able to do. It has to fulfill my needs out of the box, which this keyboard does. Sure, a great editor would be cool. I do wish they wouldn't put dates out there if they're not solid, but things change, problems arise, etc. People here are doing brilliant programming work without it. Let's all make music and when it comes, it comes.
