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Posted: **Sat Dec 03, 2011 12:34 pm**

SoWi wrote:This forum is the new "Circus Maximus".

I DO NOT appreciate that comment at all.

I also DO NOT appreciate the fact that your trying to pass yourself off as a regular member when in fact your real name is “Peter Jung” from KARO. Yet you engage in KARO threads correcting people in the third person.

Finding this out today on the back of also noticing that user oasys76 has made 96 posts on this forum and 64 of them are all about wanting to buy or the general topic of KARO libraries does not sit will with me. That’s a level beyond just general interest.

I would be very disappointed if I were to find people from KARO working on this forum undercover promoting their libraries.

Posted: **Sat Dec 03, 2011 12:37 pm**

SoWi, aka Peter from KARO.... you also have a second account here ?

Peterjung-ikt

Explain please..!!!!! I'm very unhappy right now with what I'm seeing.

Posted: **Sat Dec 03, 2011 12:51 pm**

And a thrid account..

User P.J.

http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... le&u=38893

EXPLAIN...!!!!

Posted: **Sat Dec 03, 2011 1:04 pm**

DennyC wrote:I have to give Mike Conway some kudos as he provided a solution for a problem I had with my Oasys. I appreciate that.

I've been away from the forums for a few days. Good to hear!

SoWi wrote:Stereo samples and mono samples together, that's truly new and hasn't been there before in KARO's stuff.

I'm not sure what you mean. One of the sample screens from my OASYS with Karo's KSL Strings:

Posted: **Sat Dec 03, 2011 1:06 pm**

These are mono versions of L and R channels of the stereo samples. From what I understand, there should be true stereo samples, cf. e.g. the ROM of the OASYS or the KRONOS.

Posted: **Sat Dec 03, 2011 2:14 pm**

Does anyone know whether the Karo library and the Legendary strings (which this thread is about...) from Korg are different products?

Posted: **Sat Dec 03, 2011 2:25 pm**

A copy of conversation taking place by PM….
I’m making this public because of the seriousness of the consequences that could take place because of this.

If things are not made clear to me, I will ban everyone from KARO.

SoWi wrote: Just discard whatever account you like.

Sharp wrote: No, it’s not so simple.
You need to explain why you have 3 accounts and why you are trying to pretend you’re a regular member on this forum.

Regards
Sharp.

SoWi wrote: There aren't any explanations to be given, I am afraid that you will have to live with that.

Sharp wrote: Let me get this clear….
So you, Peter from KARO are telling me that you have no intentions of explaining why you have 3 accounts or why you are pretending to pass as a regular member, and I’m just supposed to live with this ?.

SoWi wrote:The peterjung-ikt account has been inactive; it should have been discarded as requested long ago.

The P.J. account does not have any posts and will not have any.

The SoWi account has 26 posts.

That's all to say.

Sharp wrote:Just because you decide to stop using peterjung-ikt is no excuse.

I also DO NOT accept your reasons for your P.J. account as you registered that account only this morning. Clearly your intentions are here are to try mislead me. Why when I’m communicating to you through your SoWi account would even and create a third account ?

And as for your SoWi account, you still have not explained your activity on the forum with that account by pretending to have no relations with KARO when in fact you are part of KARO.

At this point, I now have reason to check the ip addresses of posts made by user oasys76 to see if that is you also.

Let me make this crystal clear. You are part of KARO and you need to explain your actions. If you do not I will be forced to assume your intentions here are to mislead our members by posting undercover to generate interest in your products.

That is a direct violation of forum rules. Not only will I ban you, I will ban everyone from KARO so you must explain your actions.

SoWi wrote:The company KARO consists of two people, Kurt Ader and Oliver Rehn, not more. That's why the name is KARO (KA: Kurt Ader; RO: Rehn Oliver)

Sharp wrote:The company maybe registered to those two names, but the fact remains that you work for KARO. You name appears on their website and as downloadable PDF as a sound designer, mapping and demo artist.

So, fact is you DO work for KARO and are certainly not what you are pretending to be on the forum.

SoWi wrote:The account P.J. was used for a single private message.

Sharp wrote:I have seized control of that account to investigate your actions as I do not believe you are of good intentions in owing so many accounts. So you create a new account just to ask michelkeijzers to send you a copy of his software, PCG Tools.

And you feel the need to create an entirely new account with a new email address just to do that ?

SoWi wrote:As I said, the P.J. account was only used for a single private message. This was sent to Michel requeting a copy of his PCG tools which I heard about. My intentions were not to fool you. I do not believe that a forum admin can be fooled at all.

I explained about the structure of the company KARO. I have known Kurt for many years now and we have been continuing our work on libraries, but I can asure you that I am not part of the company KARO. I am not asking you to believe me, at all. You may contact Kurt directly if you wish. I am sure that he will second the explanation.

I will not be able to hold you back in any action you aree planning to take, however, you should consider that it will not be fair to Oliver and to Kurt to ban them.

Personally, I do not have any problem with banning me from the forum if you find it appropriate. Maybe you can identify those particular posts by SoWi to me which clearly promote any KARO product. I will be happy to discard the contents if you wish, should I still have access by that time.

Since I do not have any access to the peterjung-ikt account anymore, it is truly inactive, and since I was requested to have a look at some earlier posts, I had to create a new account.

BTW, I do not know who "oasys76" is. I do not have any relations with him.

Sharp wrote:
All your accounts were active, I’ve checked them. I also know you work for KARO as your name is on their website and downloadable documentation as sound designer, demo artist and mapper.

I have invited Kurt to response to the thread so I’m going to post a complete copy of our conversation on the forum. You are welcome to use your original account on the forum only.

I have also now disabled your SoWi and P.J. account as you have just started to go back to all your posts SoWi posts and remove the content you posted.

You are clearly trying to cover your tracks now.

Posted: **Sat Dec 03, 2011 2:48 pm**

SoWi wrote:[
I guess that Kurt will never confirm what another one expects him to do. Why should he?

sparkie, I guess that no-one expects you to buy anything. So, you may stay unequipped, all others who take the libs will be ahead of you

Unequipped without Karo?.. You cant be serious??:roll: Kronos has more than enough sounds without yours..and any additional sounds I recommend Kid Nepro, Basari Studios etc.. ....or many others available here.

Now that we find you & who knows how many others ..actually work for KARO SOUNDS posting with many accounts to secretly promote your libraries is what I flat out call SPAM!!

The tactics and arrogance you have displayed only further show us the Non-Integrity of who you, & the sidekicks you Cheerleader and work for!! Not to mention the extent of which you will go to to sell your "Severely Overpriced" libraries...IMHO.

Posted: **Sat Dec 03, 2011 4:09 pm**

Hi,

PeterJung-IKT has not posted for a long time. I think the last post was in February 2010! Check his profile if you wish. Peter assured me that he does not have any access any more.

By the way, Peter (Jung) and Guido Bruck have never been members or the company. We have cooperated for a long time.

I have known Peter for more than 25 years. He is certainly one of the most educated and decent people I have ever met.

Peter and I did a lot of work together in adapting, polishing and improving libs and, together with Oliver and Guido, developed many new libraries which did not exits in the OASYS.

And as stated above, Oasys76 is definitely no KARO member.

Best wishes,

Kurt
KARO sound development

Posted: **Sat Dec 03, 2011 5:14 pm**

Hi Kurt.

ALL LIES!

Please explain the following so we can clear all this up and move on.

I don't no! Peter Jung

Come on man, your own website states very clearly the work you and Peter have being doing together.

Nobody from KARO has a double account!

Peter has 3 that I’ve verified so far. He’s admitted it too.

We have a lot of work with our libraries and we have no time for NONSENSE!/quote]

I don’t think it’s nonsense at all. I think this is a very serious matter than needs addressing and I’m not exactly impress with your response so far telling me you don’t even know the guy when he’s name is all over you products.

EDIT….. HOLD ON A SECOND…..

Your changing you post now…..F**k This.
What sort of GAME are you plaing man.

Posted: **Sat Dec 03, 2011 5:19 pm**

I was just going to reply to the post stating that you don't know Peter Jung where suddenly you change it to you have been working with him for 25 years.

You must have a very bad memory to have forgotten someone you have known for 25 years.

Posted: **Sat Dec 03, 2011 5:24 pm**

Pepperpotty… I am sick to the stomach over this.
I’m bloody delighted to know you saw his post before it was changed too.

This is VERY serious now.

Posted: **Sat Dec 03, 2011 5:25 pm**

This is all too bizarre for words.

@KARO

I think you should be apologising to this forum, to Sharp and to Korg that one of your associates was posting highly inflammatory comments on a forum filled with your target customers and your old OASYS customers.

The comments that were made (and now deleted by Peter Jung) put KARO in a very, very bad light.

Now, either you regret that or you go along with what Peter posted. Like Sharp says, you should make your position clear.

This is all such a shame because, as I have stated many times, KARO libraries are great.

Posted: **Sat Dec 03, 2011 5:26 pm**

Sharp wrote:Pepperpotty… I am sick to the stomach over this.
I’m bloody delighted to know you saw his post before it was changed too.

This is VERY serious now.

I saw previous version too, Sharp - and read it with much disbelief.

Posted: **Sat Dec 03, 2011 5:45 pm**

cello wrote:
Sharp wrote:Pepperpotty… I am sick to the stomach over this.
I’m bloody delighted to know you saw his post before it was changed too.

This is VERY serious now.
I saw previous version too, Sharp - and read it with much disbelief.

Perfect..!!!!
I'd love a copy of anyone has it. My temp files where overwritten when I refreshed.

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