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I just got my Kronos 88 and have barely dug into it. Still have to explore the thing. But from my long experience with KORG since the Triton days, I expect that the Kronos could use some additional

- Vintage synth sounds from the 70s and 80s, and Vintege Emulations (CS-80, Prophet 5, OB-Xa, Jupiter-8, Memorymoog, ARP Chroma, etc)
- Complex Modular Textures (Tomita, Klaus Schultz, Tangerine Dream, YMO, etc) on AL-1
- Digital Hybrids (D-50, EX-8000, JD-990, classic Wavestation, V Synth, PPG, Ensoniq Fizmo, etc)
- Modern Electronic Rock (everything from Depeche Mode and Erasure to Skinny Puppy and Nine Inch Nails)
- Dubstep/Techno/Electronica/House etc (as much as I dislike that genre and hope this comes out last)

If anything, I'm into prog rock, ambient and soundscape/soundtrack stuff. And while I prefer to roll my own patches, I'm always willing to learn from a sensei, especially someone who can pull off with panache something from my Complex Modular Textures and Digital Hybrid suggestions.
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synthguy wrote:I just got my Kronos 88 and have barely dug into it. Still have to explore the thing. But from my long experience with KORG since the Triton days, I expect that the Kronos could use some additional

- Vintage synth sounds from the 70s and 80s, and Vintege Emulations (CS-80, Prophet 5, OB-Xa, Jupiter-8, Memorymoog, ARP Chroma, etc)
- Complex Modular Textures (Tomita, Klaus Schultz, Tangerine Dream, YMO, etc) on AL-1
- Digital Hybrids (D-50, EX-8000, JD-990, classic Wavestation, V Synth, PPG, Ensoniq Fizmo, etc)
- Modern Electronic Rock (everything from Depeche Mode and Erasure to Skinny Puppy and Nine Inch Nails)
- Dubstep/Techno/Electronica/House etc (as much as I dislike that genre and hope this comes out last)
thanks for the suggestions synthguy,

i'm working on a lot of different sets at the moment based on the suggestions on this forum. A few of them will be right up your alley. So here is a progress report of what i'm busy with:

The first releases will be:
- Magical Space : 64 programs consisting: moving padsounds based on new wave sequences, leads and FX sounds
- Magical Clouds: 64 programs consisting: rythmical pads, many leads, basslines and sound effects
- Magical Pianos: 32 new age / ambient / chill out pianos

These are all finished at the moment.

The sets i'm working on now are:
- The Eighties Revived: 64 programs based on famous eighties songs, where the sound is upgraded to the 2012 sound. So it has the 80ths characteristics but they sound fresh. I've decided to create the sounds with this new approach because there is already a soundset available with lots of combis by someone else with the original 80-ies sounds.
- Dance Nation: 64 modern dance / trance / dubstep sounds.
- Vintage 2012 synths part 1: 64 programs based on samples of the golden oldies synths.
- Vintage 2012 synths part 2: 64 programs based on samples of the golden oldies synths.

For the vintage 2012 samples i've reserved a two days sample session in october where all the classic synths are going to be sampled by me. Think of synths like: the Roland Jupiter 8, ARP 2600, Roland Juno-60, Moog Minimoog Model-D, Elka Synthex.

I'm going to create lots of different samples on these synths which will be the base of the new programs. I'm going to create new fresh sounds with the samples from these kind of synths. Also i'm going to create a video from the sample session because i think it's fun to watch all these golden oldie synths in action.

My internet connection has been repared today, so i'm able again to upload tutorials and demos. So expect a demo of the Magical Cloud soundset where i show a couple of the Rythmical Wave sequences Pads.

So lots of exiting new things are on the way, but it takes a lot of time to do it right, but it's fun to do :)
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" there is already a soundset available with lots of combis by someone else with the original 80-ies sounds. "

Really? I must have missed that one. Direct me please Really looking forward to your releases, Qui. I'll say it again, Korg should hire you. Thank you for all your effort. Desperately and anxiously awaiting that that 70's, 80's 90's soundset. :D
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drama1 wrote:" there is already a soundset available with lots of combis by someone else with the original 80-ies sounds. "

Really? I must have missed that one.... :D
Hi Qui, hi drama1,

do you mean this sounds: http://www.youtube.com/user/korgsounds? ... sults_main?
They are created by a very talented keyboardist from germany but originally for the Oasys; I´ve bought some of the combis and had to re-assign the sounds; but after that they sound o.k.

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kronos_timmmy wrote:
drama1 wrote:" there is already a soundset available with lots of combis by someone else with the original 80-ies sounds. "

Really? I must have missed that one.... :D
Hi Qui, hi drama1,

do you mean this sounds: http://www.youtube.com/user/korgsounds? ... sults_main?
They are created by a very talented keyboardist from germany but originally for the Oasys; I´ve bought some of the combis and had to re-assign the sounds; but after that they sound o.k.

Greetings

Tim
yes that's the one, i saw this video where at the end the setlist was displayed. So that way i thought this 70-80ies sets were covered already.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CXU-89Y5r0

What i'm doing at the moment for my 80 soundset is listening to the classics of the eighties and recreate those signature sounds, then i modify them a little bit so that they sound a little bit more modern. I like the results so far and they are very suitable for band use (not that much of FX used).

I've had huge internet problems in the last month so i wasn't able to upload any demos or tutorials, now the problems are solved by the internet company and i'm back online, so this weekend i'm going to record some new videos and tutorials for my channel again.
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QuiRob, this all sounds very enjoyable. I'm looking forward to not just browsing your tutorials, and the others at the Karma Labs site, but of your documentary of having all those classic beasts in the studio. Especially a Synthex, which is quite a legendary monster.

Plonking along on the Kronos is quite an odd experience, something like finally driving a Ferrari or Lamborghini for the first time. All this power available in one keyboard is mind boggling. Although, I still want a Jupiter-80. :wink:
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synthguy wrote:... Although, I still want a Jupiter-80. :wink:
Why not buy a Moog Voyager or Little Phatty? You can route it directly into Kronos and enjoy the best of both worlds!

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Actually, I do want to buy a Moog Voyager and a Prophet '08 too, but the Jupiter is an instrument which offers a few features the Kronos lacks, mostly the SuperNatural "physical modeling" stuff which somehow works with those samples in an amazingly realistic way. And for those guys who insist you can do the same thing for half the price with a soft synth, that's rather true. But I want that Roland sound too, and you can only get that with a Roland.
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synthguy wrote:Actually, I do want to buy a Moog Voyager and a Prophet '08 too, but the Jupiter is an instrument which offers a few features the Kronos lacks, mostly the SuperNatural "physical modeling" stuff which somehow works with those samples in an amazingly realistic way. And for those guys who insist you can do the same thing for half the price with a soft synth, that's rather true. But I want that Roland sound too, and you can only get that with a Roland.
How about the Integra-7 instead of the Jupiter?

Also are you the Arturia Origin Synthguy?
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Qui, I am intrigued and my curiosity peaked, for sure, with what you will come up with using wave sequencing in OS v2. I would also like to put in a vote for some emphasis on fat bass especially for dub when you do your sampling session in October. I sense I will be a regular customer of your sound sets!
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Qui: Something like this for the Kronos would be awesome.

http://shop.motifator.com/index.php/voi ... -mo-x.html

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BobTheDog wrote:How about the Integra-7 instead of the Jupiter?
I'm debating that. As of now, I could use those 76 keys and performance features of the Jupiter, but the Integra is pretty well endowed. Still, I've wanted something with the "Jupiter" name on it for ages, and it's way less than what you have to spend to get a Jupiter-8.
Also are you the Arturia Origin Synthguy?
I... might be somewhat familiar with the Origin. :wink:

On those Motifator patches, those do sound very nice, considering they use the internal waves in the synth. I can only imagine how much better they would be with a modular VA synth like AL-1, and additional samples.
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nowtime wrote:Qui, I am intrigued and my curiosity peaked, for sure, with what you will come up with using wave sequencing in OS v2. I would also like to put in a vote for some emphasis on fat bass especially for dub when you do your sampling session in October.
This weekend a new wave sequence video demo will be uploaded by me. That one will show the rythmic pads. I still find it unbelievable what one program can do when you use your own wave sequences (i've programmed a lot of new wave sequences for that set). There's so much happening in one sound that it sounds more like a combi that just one sound. I've said it before but i still have the opinion that the Wave Sequences can be considered as the tenth 'hidden' Exi engine.

For dubstep kind of sounds I've programmed a couple of dubstep programs in the AL-1 soundset. There wasn't much interest in a complete dubstep set so i've added a few of them to the dance nation soundset.

The Sampled material will be used for a more vintage synth approach. But i'm not going to clone the old vintage synths. I'm using samples of the raw oscillators for new material. I've did some tests and the sound character changes completely in the kronos when using those kind of samples. I love the results from using my own sample libraries. I'm not going to show the results soon, but i think most people will like it.

midinut wrote:Qui: Something like this for the Kronos would be awesome.

http://shop.motifator.com/index.php/voi ... -mo-x.html
Thanks!
I'm going to check the demos.

synthguy wrote:
BobTheDog wrote:How about the Integra-7 instead of the Jupiter?
I'm debating that. As of now, I could use those 76 keys and performance features of the Jupiter, but the Integra is pretty well endowed.

On those Motifator patches, those do sound very nice, considering they use the internal waves in the synth. I can only imagine how much better they would be with a modular VA synth like AL-1, and additional samples.
I'm also considering the integra 7, for that price getting a synth with that rom library seems like a bargain.

The AL-1 can't use custom samples, but it doesn't need them since you can tailor the behaviour of the engine to a more analog one. Especially when you use the Edge, randomize frequencies and wave morph functionality on oscs you can get really fat analog sounding sounds.
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Look forward to your banks.

Roland Jupiter 8,ARP 2600,Roland Juno 60,MOOG,Elka Synthex sounds great.
I was near buying a Elka Synthex for 4500 euro
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Qui, simply fabulous texture combinations, masterfully and aesthetically presented. I've been busy and I don't know how I missed this thread.
A job very well done! They are a delight! :) :)
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