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Post by shefu »

I never owned a Tyros, but it seems to me like they're reselling the same thing over and over again, with increment upgrades. The price tag on this thing is lol you can get a second hand Kronos and JP-80 for that much and you're done with hard synths, like forever.

I don't know what's happening with Yamaha, but they went from innovators (remember the EX-5? or An1X) to repackaging Motifs and Tyros over and over again.

Pls don't take my post as being a hater, cause I'm not. I wish all these companies well, but sometimes I just don't understand their reasoning.
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The development teams have run out of ideas and it is time for new blood.

Happens in every company R&D.
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never owned a Tyros, but it seems to me like they're reselling the same thing over and over again, with increment upgrades
I think Apple work similar though, don't you think?, IPhones 3G, 3gS, 4G 4gS, iPhone 5, 5S, and so on (similar trend with the ipads too. doesn't make them less popular though. Ipads are Very popular (so too are their phones, even if the rest are catching up (or surpassing).


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Post by Bachus »

AnthonyB wrote:
never owned a Tyros, but it seems to me like they're reselling the same thing over and over again, with increment upgrades
I think Apple work similar though, don't you think?, IPhones 3G, 3gS, 4G 4gS, iPhone 5, 5S, and so on (similar trend with the ipads too. doesn't make them less popular though. Ipads are Very popular (so too are their phones, even if the rest are catching up (or surpassing).


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Post by Kevin Nolan »

There's no harm in incremental steps forward - if they are worthwhile, as in, refining the concept, adding worthwhile new features, ... After all, that's how acoustic instruments are so refined today - the piano being a prime example of an instrument in continuous incremental development for hundreds of years.

I realise it may seem a bit more frivolous when we consider the incremental developments being considered here - but I for one am more impressed with the likes of Korg who have developed the workstation over the past 20 years in such an incremental path. For me, Yamaha didn't do enough of this (the path from DX1 to SY99 was impressive) - but overall their synthesiser development was to changeable and where incremental developments would could have lead to some amazing synthesisers today. So the development of Tyros is impressive - and has led to the release of higher spec and higher quality other arrangers such as the S700.

And - the company has to make money to survive - they are surely locked into such a cycle of releases?

The real issue is whether such incremental development is in proportion to other, equally needed new innovations; and arguably Yamaha have been bad on this from in all Keyboard departments over the past decade.
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Post by Jan1 »

Having heard the Tyros 5 I take back my pun: it's a really good sounding instrument, and very versatile.
It may not be revolutionary, but it certainly is a very good instrument in it's own right.
I never buy any arrangers because I don't need all the bells and whistles of pre-fabricated arangements, but as far as the sound is concerned the Tyros 5 is very impressive.
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