ELECTRIBE TOURNAMENT...teh semi final zomg

reddone · Post by **reddone** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:33 pm

I also think that compression alters the sound enough t rule it out for the compo . I use it at the moment to hear all the elements correctly , but although it sounds better compression or not the mx sounds great .

My jungle track i'm doing sounds a little wooden without comp' but i dont mind really , evryone is in that boat to a degree .

Still , im off work next week , i reckon i can get that sound up a bit .
I'll be jamming ma house/techno til next weeks lockdown tho ...
This ones gonna take it outta me to programme , it aint no jam .

will post asap .... well done to those who posted already , some diversity already . Mangelbox, u seem pretty clued up , i look 4ward to meeting u in battle ... i'm expecting a nice challenge

Ruso · Post by **Ruso** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:46 pm

see the main problem I have is some of us could potentially have a 2000 dollar compressor laying arround and some like me don't own one which makes a very drastic advantage to the person with the compressor because it GREATLY improves the sound...

aizo · Post by **aizo** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:07 pm

what about soundcards and interfaces? some people could have a lovely interface with great preamps. some just a soundcard with rca hookups. point is..... a great track doesn't need anything. electribes sound aight just the way they are. compression isn't gonna smooth out bad musicianship. the competition is about what you can program not how well your track sounds.
one of the main reasons why i got out of being a sound engineer and sold a lot of my recording equipment was it was interfering in my music making. i would record a drum track and before the song was done i HAD to mix the drums. i was like i can't be creative if the sd isnt compressed and has reverb. but thats crap thinking. i leave the mastering and all the mixing until its time. crative juices dont just flow. and they sure do dry up quick when you start mixing and mastering

reddone · Post by **reddone** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:31 pm

Some other things to bear in mind are things like how the end sound format might affect your tune .
The distinct 'tribes tones is lost a fair bit in lesser formats , so a recording done on a shitty soundcard then degraded further will pale in comparisson to a well recorded n compressed mix , even when its degraded .

Recording systems cant be helped , but compressing needs to be left off .

Unless people are prepared to compress each others mixes maybe ....

TrrP · Post by **TrrP** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:42 pm

Forget compression! Thats not what this compo is about.. is it not.. ???

It's about Electribe skills otherwise we would be in a master engineering compo.

While we're talking about this.. no running the signal through a mixing desk either I hope. That also drastically changes things. Just the soundcard.

EDIT: Also..
Is everybody running the complete mix out of the Electribes?
Because recording each instrument individually would also drastically change things seeing as the Electribes headroom is also a big handicap in this compo.

Ruso · Post by **Ruso** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:26 pm

yes this is very important.... I'm running master, from electribe.... you bring up a very good point with mixing it elsewhere... ESPECIALLY in other audio SOFTWARE!!!!!!

sticking even the master and rendering it in ableton 7 drastically changes the sound... I could hear it so I had to actually use the recorded sample rather then rendering it....

The Puppeteer · Post by **The Puppeteer** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:00 am

Well mine went straight from the EMX's mix out's into my sound card (Yamaha i88x). Recorded with Soundforge and saved as an mp3.

The only mixing was to adjust the input gains on the soundcard so it didn't clip.

primateoftheyear · Post by **primateoftheyear** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:31 am

just record a single stream from the tribe, convert to mp3 and upload. couldnt be simpler. we want a good clean fight ladies and gents. just electribes, nothing more or less, no outboard compressors nor sonic freaking hammers thankyouplox.

cheats will be fed to the zombies.

it is interesting tho, how the full sound of the electribe becomes limper and flatter when i record it. what sounds great straight from the tribe seems to lose so much when i record it.

obviously outside of the scope of this tourney, but what do you guys do to preserve those rich tones when using your tribes as part of your studio setup???

aizo · Post by **aizo** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:54 am

dis lil guy richeer

http://www.pspaudioware.com/

The Puppeteer · Post by **The Puppeteer** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:31 am

Record each part individually. Each get's EQ'd and compressed (if required - we prefer dynamic mixes, so we use compression sparingly) and effected using a Kurzweil KSP8.

Mixed with all the other toys in the studio and it goes out via
our Tube Vitalizer

reddone · Post by **reddone** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:26 pm

Preserving the tribes tone ?

My multitracker ( fostex mr-8 mkII ) records my sounds into a wav with no difference to the original sound , or VERY little difference i can notice .

I even find that mp3ing some tracks sounds cooler than wav due to degrading ... but not always .

P.s. My multitracker has no eq's or anything , compression will be left off 4 def too .
Oddily tho , i was listening to my groove last nite thinking " damn that beat sounds so nicely compressed " , then i walked over to the setup to find that NOTHING was at all

!!

Music is music , n processing wont turn dross into gold after all .
A good original recording is what u need really .

Setsonics · Post by **Setsonics** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:40 pm

Clive has gone into another dimension and will not be producing any tracks for this comp.

Apologies!

I will post on Soundclick too to make sure everyone knows.

reddone · Post by **reddone** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:07 pm

Clive in dimension x ? No tune , how so ?

Setsonics · Post by **Setsonics** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:19 pm

I finished the album, and am cutting my losses before I get sued.

primateoftheyear · Post by **primateoftheyear** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:50 pm

this is disappointing news indeed. i was looking forward to hearing ur shizzle. album you say? sued you say? couldnt you squeeze out a little jam, being an expert on rubber keys and all that?