Kaossilator Pro fixes and features wish list (update4/20/10)

[RichF]

We absolutely can't discuss current or future product development, sorry. What I can do, though, is assure you that your ideas have already made their way to our design team, and they WILL be considered.

[Mr36]

Fair enough. I understand that. Can't blame a chap for asking though.

Let's hope some get more than just consideration though. And I don't mean rejection!

[samartin]

Nice to hear that the ideas/annoyances are being pushed forward into product development

[Ricoche]

We absolutely can't discuss current or future product development, sorry. What I can do, though, is assure you that your ideas have already made their way to our design team, and they WILL be considered.

What I'm curious about is whether the design team actually thinks about these ideas beforehand. There are some features that must have been thought about and thus there is a reason they they were not included in the first place. I guess I'm imagining the designers sitting around saying "Oh, I knew our customers would say that."...laugh.

[4dnightmare]

To the Korg employee: I am very glad you are taking notes.
I apologize if someone already brought this up and I'm duplicating, but PLEASE simplify the MIDI. I just want to be able to plug in the MIDI cords, program MIDI in or MIDI out and play without all this business about creating loops and codes and such. Really, most of us just want to sync our machines - especially live - as simply as possible and it's always been quite easy with my Electribes, Evolver, Boss drum machines, everything else I've ever owned.

[fossilfool]

It seems pretty arbitrary that using 16 beat loops is only allowed when the tempo is 107.5 or higher. This excludes a lot of hip hop! I guess it's a memory thing, but it's hard to build much of a hip hop groove around an 8 beat loop.

On the Kaossilator there was a trick to allow 16 bar loops at any tempo. Is there a trick like that on the Kaossilator Pro?

[Mr36]

Unfortunately not. And it's doubtful Korg will be able to do anything to remedy this through a firmware update.

[xmlguy]

16 beats of music at 60BPM requires twice as much memory as 16 beats of music at 120BPM. The KPro has limited sample time because Korg stuck to the limitations of the KP3 hardware instead of designing it fresh, from the ground up. You'll have to live with it until Korg decides to build a new model that isn't just a recycled KP3 with revised software.

[Mr36]

They did revise some of the hardware though... The yellow trim around the screen, the nameplate, and the pretty green lights for starters!

[xmlguy]

They did revise some of the hardware though... The yellow trim around the screen, the nameplate, and the pretty green lights for starters!

Just cosmetics. That's the only explanation for the idiotic use of the KP3 switch on the back for the gate arp settings on the KPro, which should be on the top of the unit if the Korg R&D weren't smoking weed, drunk, or whatever mind altering substance that also made them think that it was OK to drop the patterns of the K01. Recycling is good for aluminum and plastic soda containers, not so good for music devices.

[Scott M2]

16 beats of music at 60BPM requires twice as much memory as 16 beats of music at 120BPM. The KPro has limited sample time because Korg stuck to the limitations of the KP3 hardware instead of designing it fresh, from the ground up. You'll have to live with it until Korg decides to build a new model that isn't just a recycled KP3 with revised software.

Though, oddly enough, the KP-3 will record four 16-Beat samples down to a tempo of 74 BPM.

[salamanderanagram]

"Though, oddly enough, the KP-3 will record four 16-Beat samples down to a tempo of 74 BPM."

the shorter time on the kpro is probably due to the fact that you can overdub on the banks. the midi implementation shows without a doubt some extremely lazy engineering on korg's part, it *has* to be based on the kp3, nothing else would make any sense.

[DannyOcean]

I don't think this one has been added:

The ability to mute one bank so it is routed to the headphone socket rather than the KPro output. That way you could build up a loop bank mid-song while the other banks are playing, like a DJ cue-ing up his next record.

It would make for more dynamic songs if you can drop a ready-made loop bank in for a chorus or whatever and it wouldn't take any more memory as you're simply re-routing a bank that would be recording/looping anyway.

[Mr36]

@ DannyOcean
Many a moon ago, I suggested something similar, just in different terms. I'm not sure whether it was every added to this particular thread though.
I just said that I had wished that by lowering the volume on the on-screen fader for a bank to 0 and therefore muted, whatever was being recorded to that bank would not be heard. Instead, if you haven't tried this, you hear what is being played while you play it in live (the first time) and then the subsequent recorded loops are muted. Obviously this does make sense as the faders are for loop volume but I still would have greatly appreciated the ability to record things in without them necessarily being output live.


I also had noticed the KP3 loop time restrictions being different (I only recently got a KP3) and also put it down to overdubbing. However, I still think it's blatant that the KPro was largely a rehashed KP3.

[X-Trade]

I don't think this one has been added:

The ability to mute one bank so it is routed to the headphone socket rather than the KPro output. That way you could build up a loop bank mid-song while the other banks are playing, like a DJ cue-ing up his next record.

It would make for more dynamic songs if you can drop a ready-made loop bank in for a chorus or whatever and it wouldn't take any more memory as you're simply re-routing a bank that would be recording/looping anyway.

I doubt this would be possible.

Most equipment tends to have the headphone output drawn directly from the main output signal. So whilst there are two physical ports, there is only one pair (stereo) of DACs from the actual DSPs which the software can address. I hope that makes sense.