Sound on Sound magazine review

EXer · Post by **EXer** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 5:17 pm

I must feel like the master builders of the cathedrals, so I have to add images for the non Latin speaking vulgum pecus :

Frequentia XXIV decibelli cribri [dicitur IV poli] gubernata est ab involucro in quatuor stadia solutus: impetum, declinus, cessatio et dimissio: inde appellatus est IDCD involucrus.

Minimus Mogulus Americanus tres stadia habet, inde involucrus appellatus est ID (tandem ICD). Modestia in stadiorum numero

Tardus Rolandus Nipponicus J. P. MMMMMMMM plurima stadia habet.

Amen.

cachete1966 · Post by **cachete1966** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 5:35 pm

Hi..!!

anyone have the S.O.S review ??

Can upload or sendit??

thnaks..!!

Melodialworks Music · Post by **Melodialworks Music** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 5:41 pm

cachete1966 wrote:Hi..!!

anyone have the S.O.S review ??

Can upload or sendit??

thnaks..!!

You need to be a subscriber or can purchase it individually.

Randelph · Post by **Randelph** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 7:28 pm

Speaking of synth architecture:
> On the M3, one of the Realtime Control parameters for Slider 3 is Filter Envelope Generator Intensity. I'm assuming the Oayses and Kronos will have the same hardwired Realtime Control.

I've done a search in the Operations and Parameter Guide, and other than saying its CC#79, it doesn't say what it does. It sounds like an extension of the cutoff and resonance filter.

Another question in that regard- is it just me, or does the cutoff filter on the M3 sound peaky on many of the sounds? There ARE some lead sounds where the cutoff filter (slider #1, Realtime Controls) sounds like I expect/want it to (basic wah type of effect), but on so many of the sounds (like IA120, Smooth Operators, the Program referred to in the manual), the sound gets peaky very quickly, as in squeally and awful- most of the sounds seem to react this way on the M3.

Sorry I'm posting this here and not on the M3 forum- but this question starts off in a way related to Kronos as well.

Randy

TSUNAMI · Post by **TSUNAMI** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 8:13 pm

So i've paid for it and you want me to send it to you for free ?

THINK AGAIN BUDDY

cachete1966 wrote:Hi..!!

anyone have the S.O.S review ??

Can upload or sendit??

thnaks..!!

jimknopf · Post by **jimknopf** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 10:43 pm

ozy wrote: ...
To reach a global audience,
Cosimi and moogulator should have joined forces, and published...

... in Latin.

Frequentia XXIV decibelli cribri [dicitur IV poli] gubernata est ab involucro in quatuor stadia solutus: impetum, declinus, cessatio et dimissio: inde appellatus est IDCD involucrus.

Minimus Mogulus Americanus tres stadia habet, inde involucrus appellatus est ID (tandem ICD). Modestia in stadiorum numero

Tardus Rolandus Nipponicus J. P. MMMMMMMM plurima stadia habet.

and so on for 1100 pages.

I thought you would begin the Latin version with
Minimus Mogulus Americanus "est omnis divisa in partes tres, quarum unam incolunt ..."

@those interested in the SOS article:
I bought it online, and it is nice and in part knowledgeable, but hardly more.
I haven't found any relevant really new information in it.
And to be sincere, someone calling the CX3 the best B3 emulation until today doesn't really look like an expert to me.

Melodialworks Music · Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:37 pm

jimknopf wrote: And to be sincere, someone calling the CX3 the best B3 emulation until today doesn't really look like an expert to me.

I must admit, I wondered about that myself!

ScoobyDoo555 · Post by **ScoobyDoo555** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:12 am

I'm surprised that nobody's offered yet, but I've scanned the article if anybody wants a copy.

Don't think I can host it on here, but drop me a PM.

If this isn't allowed, feel free to delete my post.

Kontrol49 · Post by **Kontrol49** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:25 am

TSUNAMI wrote: So i've paid for it and you want me to send it to you for free ?

Isn't that what the internet was invented for

ozy · Post by **ozy** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:57 am

jimknopf wrote:I thought you would begin the Latin version with
Minimus Mogulus Americanus "est omnis divisa in partes tres, quarum unam incolunt ..."

careful what you wish for!

Roland started a trend with the Gaia and Lucina...

... Korg followed with the Kronos...

and the next Huge Workstation could be named

Yamaha Veni

Kurzweil Vidi

or Novation Vici

cachete1966 · Post by **cachete1966** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 3:41 pm

Hi Tsunami...!!

sorry man..!

This magazine is not sell in my country...!!

and here exist $$$ control..!!
only 400 i can use for a year in internet..!!( goverment regulations) (Yes....Chavez law)

and i can pay the suscription....!
cause... this """BIGGGER"" amount is use in another things...!! most important..!!

I like to read the article.... but i cant use my Limited internet $$$ in a suscription for read only one article...!!

I dont live in UK or US..... with not limit in the use of your money..!!

You have 50.000$$ to buy in internet??... in Venezuela you only can use 400$$
In all year..!! ok?? all year...!!

This is a not free country..!!

Thank.!!

synthguy · Post by **synthguy** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 5:39 pm

jimknopf wrote:And to be sincere, someone calling the CX3 the best B3 emulation until today doesn't really look like an expert to me.

I don't think it's all that outlandish that someone really loves the CX-3 sound. In my PC3, which is reputedly one of the weakest Hammond emulations, I've found a superb clone which I'm very happy with. Even though the Leslie effect has been improved at least twice with updates, it's still considered a little weaker than the KORG Leslie. But it's good enough for me right now.

I've heard patches on the OASYS and Kronos both which sound digital and harsh, but I've heard the same thing on my PC3. Honestly, if I start veering more into serious Hammond playing, I'm likely going to get one of the XKCs with its waterfall keyboard, which you really need to do any serious Hammonding.

Right now, I'm intending to use organ sounds sparingly, and many will be synthetic anyhow. I want to seriously begin using AL-1, MOD-7 and my other gear. If I'm really lucky, I can get halfway to Tomita.

danatkorg · Post by **danatkorg** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 5:56 pm

Randelph wrote:Speaking of synth architecture:
> On the M3, one of the Realtime Control parameters for Slider 3 is Filter Envelope Generator Intensity. I'm assuming the Oayses and Kronos will have the same hardwired Realtime Control.

I've done a search in the Operations and Parameter Guide, and other than saying its CC#79, it doesn't say what it does. It sounds like an extension of the cutoff and resonance filter.

M3 parameter guide p.18:

Slider 3: Flt EG (Filter EG Intensity) [000...127]
This slider scales the effect of the Filter EG on the cutoff frequencies of Filters A and B. It also transmits and receives MIDI CC#79.

McHale · Post by **McHale** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 6:29 pm

jimknopf wrote:And to be sincere, someone calling the CX3 the best B3 emulation until today doesn't really look like an expert to me.

I had the original CX3 and the later CX3 and both were pretty damn good. The leslie was also good (better than the one in the Triton or M3) I think. When the analog CX3, it was by far the best clonewheel out there at that time. When the digital version came out, it was too. Others have caught up but even Hammond's XK-1 pales in comparison and the XK-3C (not the XK-3) isn't what I would call obviously better.

Whether you would consider it the best or not would be a never ending argument but it's not as bad as you make it out to be with that statement.

ScoobyDoo555 · Post by **ScoobyDoo555** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 6:58 pm

The interesting one for me (and yes, I've finally read it!!) is the comparison machines... Fantom G7???? Surely if you're comparing, it should be with a machine that hasn't been discontinued!!!

Maybe the G8, yeh.

All in all though, a good review.