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Post by Bertotti »

Sounds nice but still a bit of a bummer. Price will need to be damn good before I even think about thinking about it. The black king korg looks nice. I hope Roli's announcement is better.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEM7E980H-k

Have to say, sounds very good... This setting next to a minilogue....lots of possibilities!

Another vid from Korg:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xv63ZWFfZf0
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Post by Broadwave »

Overall I'm a bit disappointed, apart from that Odyssei ;)

That was a really nice surprise.

Apparently, there's also rumors of a Kronos update on the way... I don't suppose... Nah, they wouldn't would they?

Could they? :twisted:
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2 Octaves of Mini keys with no pitchbend or modulation controller to the left. It's going from bad to worse.

The only saving grace about all of this is that there's so much s**t being pumped out into the market these days that it will all surely become economically unsustainable very shortly, and hopefully many of these companies will go under and this crap will start to disappear from the market. One can only hope.

This junk is an insult to all musicians - of every age (I know a few will laud them here, but I know that real, quality musicians will find a minikey 2 octave synth an insult).

I now understand why the 'synthesizer' market collapsed through the 80's and into the 90's - everybody saw each new analogue release as the same mutton dressed up, and lost faith.

I was just getting into synths then and was annoyed with the collapse of availability of such synth - but now I can see that it was a good think - it cleared the way for innovation through sampling, FM, VL and so forth - so hopefully we're not too far from that point again. It's needed, badly.

Korg have lost their way completely - from the high point of OASYs, Radias and MicroKorg in and around 2005 to Volca, Gadget and '...Logue' synths in 2016. It's sad. Really sad.

My only apprehension in waiting for such radical change is that I've also been waiting since about 1990 for music to stop being about only dance music - and it hasn't happened yet. I switched on MTV the other day to catch up on the latest output, and switched off, depressed.

Don't care if this post comes across a ageist - I'm not old - and I know my 16 and 18 year old nephews find dance music to be utter s**t too, so I know there's an objectivity to the tripe that being released as music these days, and utter and total tripe instruments like this.

Korg - depressing - beyond our worst expectations (far, FAR beyond). What are you doing???
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Step in the completely wrong direction.

An updated 8 voice Minilogue would at least have made SOME sense. But this is just more toy nonsense. It can all be used, I know. But I'm really fed up with all this cheap junk from the major brands meanwhile:

Korg, Yamaha, Roland: Go all to Pepperland with it and make some noise! :P
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Let me share my opinion. I don’t find these news so disappointing.

Yes, it would have been nice to see a new poly analogue (in the style of Polysix, Mono/Poly, with normal keys, aftertouch etc.) – maybe next time.

Korg’s decisions are based on many factors. Let us welcome the newborn babies in the family! Monologue is a nice and clever little thing. ODYSSEi looks promising and beautiful. I’m very glad to see KingKorg is not ‘abandoned’.
jimknopf wrote:The only teaser I would really mind nowadays, would probably be a daily one reminding me of practising, playing, song writing and recording, and of making more use of the wealth of possibilities I already have in direct reach! :wink:
I think the above is 100% true. Why should we complain? We have too much instruments already. Do we really need one more? For example, right now I have my KingKorg turned on in front of me – and I am searching for new synths on the internet, instead of using it better, on a higher level?
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I don't find it disappointing at all. The mono seems to sound really great. I think of these as 2 modules that happen to have keys. A mini and mono combined gives you possibilities that either one couldn't do on their own. I could imagine these next to each other with the mono handling bass voices mono leads and the mini doing the poly thing and each is specifically suited to those jobs.


Those 2 together on a tier above a capable korg controller/synth doing a split in combi mode would make for a far more capable synth than a jx and be an awesome analog especially for the price.


One anapoly synth wouldn't give you the sum of both of what these two synths have to offer.
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Post by Jan1 »

The Odyssei app looks very nice, but I have to say that I was more excited about the announcement of IK's MODO Bass than the new releases of KORG.
To be fair to KORG, the newly styled step sequencer with its different modes looks great as do the different microtuning settings.
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Odyssey module $599

Much better deal than the keyboard version.
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Does this Monologue thing not even have full/separate EG curves for amp and filter, or have I misunderstood something in the specs?

If so, the Odyssey module would be a ten times better deal, even in price relation, especially since the Monologue "keys" aren't worth much more than any virtual iPad surface keys. I'm really disgusted by this whole heavily compromised Bonsai keyboard culture and the management approach behind it, from all major brands!
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Ksynth wrote:Odyssey module $599

Much better deal than the keyboard version.
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jimknopf wrote:Step in the completely wrong direction.

An updated 8 voice Minilogue would at least have made SOME sense. But this is just more toy nonsense. It can all be used, I know. But I'm really fed up with all this cheap junk from the major brands meanwhile:

Korg, Yamaha, Roland: Go all to Pepperland with it and make some noise! :P
Not surprised. I felt the products would be ' moderate price ' stuff.
The marketing was low budget.

The stuff looks inexpensive to manufacture. Is Korg marketing to the millennials ? The dance crowd ?

The Odyssey module is a decent move but a necessary step.
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Akos Janca wrote:Let me share my opinion. I don’t find these news so disappointing.

Yes, it would have been nice to see a new poly analogue (in the style of Polysix, Mono/Poly, with normal keys, aftertouch etc.) – maybe next time.

Korg’s decisions are based on many factors. Let us welcome the newborn babies in the family! Monologue is a nice and clever little thing. ODYSSEi looks promising and beautiful. I’m very glad to see KingKorg is not ‘abandoned’.
jimknopf wrote:The only teaser I would really mind nowadays, would probably be a daily one reminding me of practising, playing, song writing and recording, and of making more use of the wealth of possibilities I already have in direct reach! :wink:
I think the above is 100% true. Why should we complain? We have too much instruments already. Do we really need one more? For example, right now I have my KingKorg turned on in front of me – and I am searching for new synths on the internet, instead of using it better, on a higher level?

so you're saying these releases are acceptable? To whom? do you expect keyboard players to be content with a 2 octave minikeyboard. and are you saying there is no more innvation to happen in synthesizers, for ever more - even into the far future? Really- we're done with new stuff? Because that's how you post reads. And, are you saying that new musicians have to tolerate this stuff while we use Jupiter 8's and OASYS? You're happy to kick new musicians in the teeth with this junk while you enjoy the higher standards and expectations of the past?
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