The New Electribes

robosardine · Post by **robosardine** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 10:33 pm

Blue Monster 65 wrote:We all have our free ones that Korg sent to forum members, Robo - didn't you get yours

Nice one

Wouldn't it be good though if they just pulled one of our names out of a hat or something.

robosardine · Post by **robosardine** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 10:41 pm

Yep- many thanks for the pointing out the video Olivander 12- Hadn't seen that one- looks great.

I will be phoning my dealer tomorrow to place my pre-order (have just sold the EMX & MC-307 to make way). He is usually very accurate about dates & delivery- I will post up his reply.

Olivander12 · Post by **Olivander12** » Wed Sep 17, 2014 5:57 am

robosardine wrote:Yep- many thanks for the pointing out the video Olivander 12- Hadn't seen that one- looks great.

I will be phoning my dealer tomorrow to place my pre-order (have just sold the EMX & MC-307 to make way). He is usually very accurate about dates & delivery- I will post up his reply.

That's cool, I hope the he will not give us a different date. I just found another date, anybody interested in placing bets?

Sweetwater says: "Korg expects to begin shipping the new Electribe in November"

Korg seems to say a lot of things. Especially when it comes to potential release dates, their imagination is endless. I suppose they have some kind of random number generator and everytime a reseller asks for an ETA he will get a random date.

robosardine · Post by **robosardine** » Wed Sep 17, 2014 10:22 am

Good News!- of sorts. I have just spoken to my main man and he tells me that Korg are being a bit cautious with their availability dates for the new Electribes- following the fiasco and delays etc of the Volcas- which is good to know that they don't want to and we don't have to go through that again.

So- the electribe should be with us in November- at the latest- but it may possibly mid-late October. The sampler will follow about a month after it's arrival.

Again- in most places you will need to pre-order if you want to be sure to get one straight away.

Olivander12 · Post by **Olivander12** » Wed Sep 17, 2014 8:48 pm

robosardine wrote:Good News!- of sorts. I have just spoken to my main man and he tells me that Korg are being a bit cautious with their availability dates for the new Electribes- following the fiasco and delays etc of the Volcas- which is good to know that they don't want to and we don't have to go through that again.

So- the electribe should be with us in November- at the latest- but it may possibly mid-late October. The sampler will follow about a month after it's arrival.

Again- in most places you will need to pre-order if you want to be sure to get one straight away.

Thank you very much for these detailed information. I am going to preorder my Electribe in october, as soon as it is avaible at my favorite online music store. I am so exciting

Tom 62 · Post by **Tom 62** » Fri Sep 19, 2014 5:05 am

Manual is online:

http://i.korg.com/uploads/Support/USA_E ... Manual.pdf

Song mode seems to be history

Olivander12 · Post by **Olivander12** » Fri Sep 19, 2014 7:34 am

Tom 62 wrote:Manual is online:

http://i.korg.com/uploads/Support/USA_E ... Manual.pdf

Song mode seems to be history

Thank you, this is the most important piece of information we could at this moment!

Here are some things from the manual which people might find interesting:

Chord button
The trigger pad can be used as a code pad while this button is ON (lit). You can set the variation or the key or scale of the code per pattern.

Auto: Sets an external device as the master, when the device is connected. In a regular setting, this system is set as the master. Ext.USB, Ext.MIDI and Ext.Sync: Sets signals from devices connected to each jack as the master.

Writing to a WAV file.
You can write patterns or a pattern set to a memory card.
Exporting a pattern to a WAV file
1. Select the EXPORT AUDIO option from the DATA utility menu.
2. Select the format (WAV file only, or Ableton Live Set) to write.
3. Pressing the Menu/Enter button will export current pattern.

Mos importanty the event recording function. Sounds totally awesome to me, even better than the song mode:

This is a function to record performances by using several patterns or operating the knob or the trigger pad, etc. in the middle of performance.
Recording

1. Select the EVENT REC/PLAY option from the edit menu and press the Menu/Enter button.

2. Pressing the Menu/Enter button again sets the Event Recorder to recording standby status.

3. Press the Play/Pause button to start recording.

4. Press the Exit button several times to return to the pattern selection screen and perform by playing back patterns.
This screen is displayed during operation of the event recorder.
This records information, such as operation of the knob or the trigger pad together with the pattern under playback to add sounds or change the tempo, etc. In addition, you may per- form with changing patterns.

5. Press the Stop button after ending performance.

6. The (name of) saved file will be displayed.

7. Press the Exit button to end recording.
TIP If the Event Recorder does not have a memory card, it will
display “No Card” and will not be usable.
TIP No information recorded on the Event Recorder will affect
the data recorded on a pattern. Also, it cannot save data on a pattern.

Playing back

1. Select the EVENT REC/PLAY option from the edit menu and press the Menu/Enter button.

2. Select EVENT PLAYER by pressing the <button>
button and press the Menu/Enter button.

3. Select the file name you wish to play by using the Value knob and the Menu/Enter button.

4. Playback the selected file by pressing the Play/Pause button.

5. Press the Stop button to stop playback and return to the
beginning of the played-back file.

6. Press the Exit button to end the Event Player.
TIP This function is not usable when the Event Recorder is
recording.
TIP During playback, other operations are not allowed.

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This means event recording saves:

1. Pattern changes
2. All Knob activites without changing the original patterns!!
3. All mute/unmute/solo changes, again without changing the pattern
4. Temp changes

I think that things could be any better! You can do a build up by even changing the tempo. You can filter sweep manually over 8 bars if you wanted. There is no need to copy patterns if you want to have some parts muted. You could even raise the volume etc. Really great!

The only disadvantage of this is that you cannot change the pattern itself. So you cannot work in one pattern. For example, you have a 4 bars house loop and you wanted to make a drum roll at the end of bar 4. In event recording mode, it would not be possible to simple put some snares on the last 4 steps during playback.

gjvti · Post by **gjvti** » Fri Sep 19, 2014 7:53 am

Tom 62 wrote:Manual is online:

http://i.korg.com/uploads/Support/USA_E ... Manual.pdf

Song mode seems to be history

Yep, thanks for the link!
Unfortunately manual says nothing about midi functionality on new Electribes except to use it on windows along with DAW Korg driver must be installed, as well as it can be synced via midi. No word whether it can send and receive midi data other than clock, no word about midi via usb, no midi implementation chart.

It would be nice if Korg explained Midi support scope on new Electribes if they had enough courage to post the manual.

Tom 62 · Post by **Tom 62** » Fri Sep 19, 2014 8:15 am

gjvti wrote:no midi implementation chart.

Take a look at page 65 in the manual

Tom 62 · Post by **Tom 62** » Fri Sep 19, 2014 8:20 am

Olivander12 wrote:This means event recording saves:

1. Pattern changes
2. All Knob activites without changing the original patterns!!
3. All mute/unmute/solo changes, again without changing the pattern
4. Temp changes

I think that things could be any better! You can do a build up by even changing the tempo. You can filter sweep manually over 8 bars if you wanted. There is no need to copy patterns if you want to have some parts muted. You could even raise the volume etc. Really great!

After reading the description in the manual, the event recorder smells like an ordinary audio recording feature

Note this: You'll need a SD card for event recording and you can't change any parameters while playing back an event recording ...

gjvti · Post by **gjvti** » Fri Sep 19, 2014 8:55 am

Tom 62 wrote:
gjvti wrote:no midi implementation chart.
Take a look at page 65 in the manual

well, thanks - couldn't imagine, that it is hidden exclusively behind Spanish version

Overall with midi support Electribes look very promising.

Olivander12 · Post by **Olivander12** » Fri Sep 19, 2014 3:54 pm

Tom 62 wrote:
Olivander12 wrote:This means event recording saves:

1. Pattern changes
2. All Knob activites without changing the original patterns!!
3. All mute/unmute/solo changes, again without changing the pattern
4. Temp changes

I think that things could be any better! You can do a build up by even changing the tempo. You can filter sweep manually over 8 bars if you wanted. There is no need to copy patterns if you want to have some parts muted. You could even raise the volume etc. Really great!
After reading the description in the manual, the event recorder smells like an ordinary audio recording feature Note this: You'll need a SD card for event recording and you can't change any parameters while playing back an event recording ...

Ok, that's probably true since there is no word whether you can edit the recording or not. But why does not Korg just call it "audio recorder"? Calling it "event recorder" is a it missleading. For people who like to program complete tracks it means that you have to row the patterns manually into an order. Or do you think that you can save different pattern sets?

robosardine · Post by **robosardine** » Fri Sep 19, 2014 5:03 pm

Hey- this is great- the part of the manual for actually operating the thing is only about five pages long- there's no excuses now for not reading it!

I have had grooveboxes where there has been around 200 pages to search through :3dread:

.... mind numbing! EMU XL-7 anyone?

Has it been stripped down a bit too far though? This seems to be the actual and not a quickstart manual?- I was kind of expecting lists for the effects, osc types and scale types for the arp/ playing the pads etc. I don't think I'll be on my own here when I admit to not knowing my Ionians from my Dorians? Perhaps this info will be on board?

The event recorder seems to cover just about everything I was hoping for. I am not so sure if it will just be an audio recorder (though it looks like it may well be)-as I was expecting some kind of on screen illustration of the patterns used as the 'event' plays back.

It's looking great - I've just watched the vid Buska told us about -

can't wait!

roblabs · Post by **roblabs** » Fri Sep 19, 2014 5:28 pm

hey robo,

I thought the same thing about the manual. Its very short, even compared to the other electribes. I'm surprised there's not even a list of sound programs, etc.

Regarding Ionians and Dorians, those are just modes of the Major scale. You can find resources on that stuff almost anywhere.

Here, this image is from the Kaossilator (orig). Korg has been using almost all of these same scales and modes ever since. I expect them to be on this new electribe too.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/nickleus/3701656804/

robosardine · Post by **robosardine** » Fri Sep 19, 2014 8:40 pm

Thanks for that roblabs- it's coming back to me a bit now.
I seem to remember not understanding the arpeggiator on the old electribes when you could set them to say- the Ionian scale- I always expected it to only play the notes in the scale (no sharps or flats) but when I was jamming with it the sharps and flats flickered on with some frequency. I still don't understand to this day- What should your expectation be if you are playing the arpeggiator in any (say the Ionian for simplicity) of the listed scales- what is meant to happen that you can predict? (please keep it simple)