Change MIDI channel of internal keyboard

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Liquid_Metal
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Change MIDI channel of internal keyboard

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I went to Global > MIDI and set MIDI Channel to e.g. 16. Then indeed in Combi mode patches on channel 16 (Timbre Parameter > MIDI > MIDI Channel) make a sound. BUT, also patches on other channels make a sound. In many cases this only those on Channel 1, but in some patches it's the ones on e.g. Channel 2 and 4, or 3.
Why is this and how can I change it? I want the Kronos sounds to play only on a specific channel because I need Channel 1 - 6 for the Fishman Triple Play.
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Post by ldascanio »

Please be sure that any timbre in your Combi is really set to channels different to the one you set as MIDI channel in GLOBAL mode. Many combis have the timbres set to GCh (Global Chanel) that means that they will always recognize the MIDI channel set in GLOBAL whatever it is. In those cases you need to change the channel from GCh to 1,2 or any other channel different to the one set in GLOBAL.

If the settings are right and they are still sounding a reason could be KARMA.
KARMA can redirect MIDI channels to others if set in that way.

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Post by Liquid_Metal »

You're right, it had to do with KARMA. As soon as I change "KARMA > GE Setup/Key Zones > Output Ch" to anything other than the global channel, the Kronos keyboard no longer triggers sounds on channel 1-6. Thanks!
It is too bad I cannot change the MIDI Channel on the FTP, because now I have to change a whole lot of Combis. But at least it works.
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Post by Liquid_Metal »

I've another question. Not entirely related but a waste to make a new topic.

Is it possible to get a monophonic sound in a Combination? So if Instrument 1 is on Channel 1 and Instrument 2 on Channel 2, would it be possible for Channel 2 to override Channel 1 and vice versa?
Combinations are the best way to use the Fishman Triple Play because this allows polyphonic string bending, but because every string transmits on a different MIDI Channel, it is not monophonic in Combination Mode. That would, however, come in handy with lead sounds.
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Post by psionic311 »

Very cool thought -- a monophonic instrument made from a combi. I know you can assign keyboard range and velocity zones... not sure how to implement a monophonic sound that switched based on MIDI channels (not at my Kronos atm).

Come to think about it... that's how you could do it, via keyboard ranges! Try this:

For low E string, assign keys E, F, F#, G, G# to MIDI channel 1.
For the A string, assign A, A#, B, C, C# to channel 2.
For the D string, assign D, D#, E, F, F# to channel 3
G string: G, G#, A, A# to channel 4
B string: B, C, C#, D# to channel 5
High E string: E, F, F#, and so on up to highest note for fret 22 (or 24). Channel 6.

Of course, you'll want each channel to have a monophonic instrument chosen. That method above will only work if you stay in the open position on the guitar. To be able to move around the whole neck while keeping each string on its own MIDI channel, you'll need to adapt the method above to start as listed, but continue the assigned notes for each string all the way up to fret 22/24.

Normally this would mean notes would overlap and you wouldn't know when a particular note should come from MIDI channel 1 or 2 or whatever, but since your Fishman automatically divvies up the MIDI channels per string, you don't have to worry about it.

What's even better, if your guitar transmits note velocity as well as just MIDI note number, then you could assign several monophonic instruments per channel, to be velocity cross-switched, adding even more expressive possibility... a very soft note could trigger a sound like a harmonic, while a hard attack could trigger the appropriate hard-sounding instrument (or even a doubled octave/fifteenth note atop the fundamental!).

This is all assuming you're using the HD-1 (the sample engine) for your instruments. It may be better to use an AL-1 sound (the synth engine), and make sure the sound has velocity triggering the filter and/or amplitude envelopes, or maybe even have velocity control FX amounts, say on distortion gain, envelope wah, pan, whatnot...

Give that a try, and enjoy!
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Post by psionic311 »

You know what, thinking about it again, you don't even have to do all that fancy stuff I mentioned above.

Just assign a monophonic instrument to each MIDI channel in your combi. You probably want to assign the same instrument to all of the channels, so that your lead solo doesn't wildly change sounds every time you switch strings.
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