Sound FX vs. Style FX

Nemik · Post by **Nemik** » Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:39 pm

I'm working on editing some sounds and catch something I am not really understand how exactly this works.
Sound Edit has Effects which is accessible, so I clone sound to user bank, rename it, then change FX and save it.
Everything seems OK, sound in Sound Mode play how I want it, but if I go to Style mode same sound play different, loose this FX

, what I missing here ?
What's this FX setting in Sound Edit is for if not apply to Style Play mode?

Daibang · Post by **Daibang** » Tue Jan 12, 2016 4:30 pm

Hey I wonder the same thing myself.All I can tell you is thing that when u choose style korg is using effects saved for style (for example 71 and 26)
I tried to put Distortion effect on 1 sound but it distortions entire style:(
Try with Menu--->Effects

hotkey · Post by **hotkey** » Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:50 pm

As I understand,
in arranger mode 8playing styles),
A part FXs are used for accompainment,
B part FXs are used for Upper 1, 2 3 and Lower sounds...

Regards,

hotkey · Post by **hotkey** » Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:51 pm

And yes, you loose FXs from Sound mode

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Daibang · Post by **Daibang** » Wed Feb 24, 2016 8:48 pm

Hi there 2 mins ago i created a post how to do it.Check it out

Nemik · Post by **Nemik** » Wed Feb 24, 2016 10:59 pm

Daibang wrote:Hi there 2 mins ago i created a post how to do it.Check it out

Sorry but your post is about basic operation FXs.
Your post is about 1 sound.
Here is something different, let's say you got STS with 3 Upper sounds and 2 FX , 1FX Reverb Wet Plate and 2-nd FX Stereo Chorus.
All 3 Upper sound and Lower using same effects.
Then you create sound in sound edit and you change 2-nd FX for Stereo Flanger and save it as new sound.
Mow when you replace one of the Upper Sounds for this new one, is not going to play with Stereo Flanger, this effect is gone, still original style FXs.
So, the question is what is the point using FX in Sound Edit, if they not follow in styles??

musiccankill · Post by **musiccankill** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 2:16 am

I think the performance gets its effects from the UPPER 1 sound , so if you only change 2 ,3 and lower the effects will remain the same but if you change upper 1 the effects will change to the effects of that sound!
You cannot have different effects for the 4 (upper1/2/3 and lower) sounds you have selected!

Daibang · Post by **Daibang** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 8:31 am

Well if u put this on FX2 Try with effects--->Stereo Flanger at FX2--->FX2 to FX1
Also you can try with mixer tuning--->fx send for 1 2 3 upper sounds.Mixer 2 is 2nd FX so if u use stereo flanger here put this on 82 or how much u want.
But if u want stereo flanger at 1 sound i think you shouldn't use fx2 to fx1 cuz it's gonna mix 2 FX.Just put stereo flanger at FX2 and turn it to 82 or something if i understand correctly

Nemik · Post by **Nemik** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 12:17 pm

@Daibang
You missing the point, Stereo Flanger was only example, I'm talking in general, about any FX.

@musiccankill
You right FX set is part of entire STS or Performance.
Somebody told me before FX on Sound is independent , but looks like not true, at least on Pa600.

At this point before making Sound we need to decide for entire Performance ( 3 Upper and Lower) which FX will be use, then on Sound Edit use same, unless is a bug and will be fix.

Daibang · Post by **Daibang** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 5:47 pm

Well if I understand correctly u want to put 3 diffrent fx on 3 uppers right?
At pa600 it is impossible because pa600 have only 2 master FX. On Pa3x You are able to do that.I saw a video where Pa3x have 3 Master FX.
Last chance.If u want to put any FX at one upper sound choose that sound---> effect--->Mixer tuning---> FX send.For example use 68 FX as FX 2 then in mixer tuning--->fx send put 117 on master 2. If u will notice that not only upper 2 will have 68 FX(If I remember 68 FX is delay) Turn upper 1 and 3 fx send to 0 so only upper 2 will have 68 fx.
I hope it is that what u need

Nemik · Post by **Nemik** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 6:39 pm

Daibang wrote:Well if I understand correctly u want to put 3 diffrent fx on 3 uppers right?
At pa600 it is impossible because pa600 have only 2 master FX. On Pa3x You are able to do that.I saw a video where Pa3x have 3 Master FX.
Last chance.If u want to put any FX at one upper sound choose that sound---> effect--->Mixer tuning---> FX send.For example use 68 FX as FX 2 then in mixer tuning--->fx send put 117 on master 2. If u will notice that not only upper 2 will have 68 FX(If I remember 68 FX is delay) Turn upper 1 and 3 fx send to 0 so only upper 2 will have 68 fx.
I hope it is that what u need

Not exactly.
In my understanding fx from sound edit should stay, no matter which fx you using after in Performance.
If not, is pointless having Fx setting in sound editing.
Taking of FX from sound like stereo vibrato syncing with beat, making sound complete different, then using same vibrato for all uppers and lower not making sense...etc.

Daibang · Post by **Daibang** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 7:19 pm

If I understand correctly, You're afraid that if u use 3 uppers in sts and u put FX, 3 uppers are gonna have this fx right?
They don't have to. You can make 1 sound having this fx.
If it's that what u need say YES so i will tell you how to do that

Nemik · Post by **Nemik** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 11:56 pm

Daibang wrote: They don't have to. You can make 1 sound having this fx.P

then you have only 1 Sound (upper) you can use in STS.
And you have to overwrite FX in STS on one You use in sound Edit, set again all parameters, technically do entire process again.
This topic is not about tricks, way to go around ..... is why is this happening, what is wrong.
Is this a bug, maybe they fix, if not we must officially ignore this functionality (FX in sound Mode), because is pointless waste time.
I hope I'm missing something, but I tried many ways and not working how they saying in manual.

Thoraldus · Post by **Thoraldus** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 3:54 am

Nemik wrote:
Daibang wrote: They don't have to. You can make 1 sound having this fx.P
then you have only 1 Sound (upper) you can use in STS.
And you have to overwrite FX in STS on one You use in sound Edit, set again all parameters, technically do entire process again.
This topic is not about tricks, way to go around ..... is why is this happening, what is wrong.
Is this a bug, maybe they fix, if not we must officially ignore this functionality (FX in sound Mode), because is pointless waste time.
I hope I'm missing something, but I tried many ways and not working how they saying in manual.

Some folks use Sound Mode for solos with full keyboard, not just as an editor. I guess Sound mode FX is for them.

Daibang · Post by **Daibang** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 12:41 pm

Well Upper 1 is FX leader.If upper 1 will have 71 and 26 upper 2,3 and lower will have the same fx.Also i wonder what do you mean by "then you have only 1 Sound (upper) you can use in STS". If i understand you say that if u put other uppers master to 0 you won't have sound or what?