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Kronos as an iPad host, individual outputs

Posted: Fri May 27, 2016 9:33 am
by vEddY
Hello everyone,

I'm away from my Kronos but I'm thinking of a way how to optimize my setup a bit. In order for me to be able to do that, I'd have to use iPad running Auria connected to the Kronos, and use its individual outputs. I've seen some reports that Kronos works well with Auria after configuring the sample rate correctly, but I can't find any info about my specific situation. So - here it is. Is it possible to connect your iPad running Auria to Kronos, and use Kronos's individual outputs to output sound via (example) two separate stereo mixes?

If I remember correctly, when you're setting this on the Kronos, it offers only something like an "USB stereo output" configuration possibilities and that's that?

Posted: Fri May 27, 2016 9:47 am
by bobmusic
Kronos only works as a 2 channel output interface. So it's not possible to address other than the main L/R outputs via USB Host applications.
The 2 S/P DIF optical channels and 2 USB channels output always the same signal as the main L/R output.

Posted: Fri May 27, 2016 11:43 am
by kbrkr
Why not use the iConnectivity iConnectMIDI1 Lightning Edition Kit to connect using standard MIDI cables IN/OUT from the Ipad Pro to the Kronos? This should give you standard 16 track in/out. I use this on my iPad Pro with both the Kronos and the Pa4x. I don't have the software you are referring to, but it works well with Moog 15M, Animoog, and Sunrizer apps.

Posted: Fri May 27, 2016 1:46 pm
by SanderXpander
That's fine if you just need midi. You can use a simple USB connection too with the Kronos, no need for a midi to USB converter. What the OP wants is to play audio from his iPad and use the extra outputs on the Kronos. As was pointed out, all you get in terms of audio is a stereo pair over USB.

Posted: Fri May 27, 2016 2:08 pm
by JohnDonovan
Not in front of my Kronos at this moment to check - but I suspect it is possible...

Because you can route the incoming iPad audio through Kronos IFX, surely you can then send those IFX outputs to individual outputs 3/4 say and leave the Kronos own audio coming out of L/R?

Posted: Fri May 27, 2016 2:10 pm
by vEddY
kbrkr wrote:Why not use the iConnectivity iConnectMIDI1 Lightning Edition Kit to connect using standard MIDI cables IN/OUT from the Ipad Pro to the Kronos? This should give you standard 16 track in/out. I use this on my iPad Pro with both the Kronos and the Pa4x. I don't have the software you are referring to, but it works well with Moog 15M, Animoog, and Sunrizer apps.
Sander explained everyhing - it's not about MIDI, it's about separate outputs for individual mixes :-) I already have a setup in which I use RME Fireface UCX for individual mixes. I was just wondering if there's a way to use Kronos for a same purpose so that I don't have to use an external device. Obviously not possible directly:-) I could go with the "usb for stereo mix plus ipad headphone output for click track" combination, but that didn't work reliably when I was using SetList Maker. Maybe with Auria it will. I'll check it out just for shits and giggles. :-)

P.S. Yes, I know that there's a iConnectivity interface that has MIDI and audio. I already have that with Fireface so that's not what I was asking about.

Posted: Fri May 27, 2016 4:23 pm
by SanderXpander
Honestly the UCX is a pretty bitchin' device. I have one too. With TotalMix on the iPad I'm sure any and all of your routing needs are completely taken care of. I understand the desire to remove a piece of gear from the chain but the UCX is so flexible and good sounding it deserves a place. Probably more advanced of a mixer than what the FOH brings, half the time. Especially if you add some ADAT I/O.

Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 3:01 pm
by Qtipcore
You can use the audio menu in Global->Basic->Audio to choose which Bus you want the USB audio to go to.

It can be any of the following:
- L/R
- IFX 1 to IFX 12
- 1 to 4 (individually)
- 1/2
- 3/4

I've been using USB 1 and USB 2 routed to 1/2 and then just panned the inputs.
And that gives me L/R outputs for the Kronos, and the 1/2 outputs for the iPad/Mac/PC etc..

But @bobmusic is correct that it is two channel only.