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Bass Inversion
Posted: Mon May 30, 2016 5:43 am
by chu_po_ming_sammy
Hi Friends,
I am Pa3X player,
May I have your advice on how to play those chords like C/D, C/F, C/A C/B flat etc in which bass inversion cannot help?
Thanks!
Chu
Posted: Mon May 30, 2016 6:41 am
by Nemik
Posted: Mon May 30, 2016 11:28 pm
by chu_po_ming_sammy
Thanks Nemik,
But my question is how I can play those chords with non-chord note bass? Example : C/D , C/F, C/A, C/B
Chu
Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 12:15 am
by Nemik
chu_po_ming_sammy wrote:Thanks Nemik,
But my question is how I can play those chords with non-chord note bass? Example : C/D , C/F, C/A, C/B
Chu
You can't.
Arranger play only Bass Inversion with note belong to chord,
what this C/D or C/B ???
Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 12:35 am
by chu_po_ming_sammy
It is bassline . My Tyros2 can do. I wonder if my PA3X can also do these.
Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 2:51 am
by Nemik
So you telling me Tyros2 can play C Major with D bass ??
In music terminology how you call this ??
Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 4:15 am
by Sam CA
Nemik wrote:...........
In music terminology how you call this ??
C9/D is the same as C/D.
Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 10:23 am
by phelene
I think it's quite simple, with the bass inversion on to play a C/D I would play the chord as such DEGC,and C/F I would play FGCE, the others is simpler C/A is an A minor 7, C/Bb BbCEG
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 12:24 am
by AntonySharmman
chu_po_ming_sammy wrote:how I can play those chords with non-chord note bass? Example : C/D , C/F, C/A, C/B
The easy way is to use Bass inversion mode and play always the wanted bass note as the lower note of your chord.
Bass inversion mode is inevitable especially for C/B = Cmaj7 (or pure dominant Bb) , where you can't force bass to play 7th
in any other way without disturbing song's harmony !
The other first 3 chords are commonly used by Jazz Musicians on arrangers without Bass inversion in the following way :
C/D = D11 played as DEGAC
C/F = Fmaj9 played as FGACE
C/A = Am7 played as GACE
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 12:32 am
by Nemik
AntonySharmman wrote:chu_po_ming_sammy wrote:how I can play those chords with non-chord note bass? Example : C/D , C/F, C/A, C/B
The easy way is to use Bass inversion mode and play always the wanted bass note as the lower note of your chord.
Bass inversion mode is inevitable especially for C/B = Cmaj7 , where you can't force bass to play maj7 in any other
way without disturbing song's harmony !
The other first 3 chords are commonly used by Jazz Musicians on arrangers without Bass inversion in the following way :
C/D = D11 played as DEGAC
C/F = Fmaj9 played as FGACE
C/A = Am7 played as GACE
@Tony
+100
Now I know, who I need to ask about music techniques
I'm Happy we got here experienced Music Conductors.
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 12:36 am
by AntonySharmman
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 8:09 am
by Nemik
@Tony
Can you explain what is different between C Major chord and C ( 1+5 ) and C ( 1+8 ), please.
I mean from Arranger side, what Korg exactly play ?
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 8:52 am
by AntonySharmman
"+" = always the addition , C(1+5) is C+G = root + 5th with the absence of 3rd so minor or major scale is not defined.
C(1+8) is only octaves = root accordingly , where no harmonic alterations or kind of scale is defined !
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 5:06 pm
by Nemik
AntonySharmman wrote:"+" = always the addition , C(1+5) is C+G = root + 5th with the absence of 3rd so minor or major scale is not defined.
C(1+8) is only octaves = root accordingly , where no harmonic alterations or kind of scale is defined !
Thanks Tony.
I'm working on some style and I like to use those chords for extra CV on variations, is very easy play them on Expert Mode.