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Its been almost a year since the pa4x is around. And despite the fact that i still have lots of apreciation for my Tyros 5, there are quite some features pulling me slowly to a pa4x...

By reading the manualls of the pa4x i found out about the things that it has to offer. However, i also noticed some things missing... The biggest one, not being able to have a 2nd split for the right hand allowing you to play the R3 sound to the far right..

The 2nd one is only having a single IFX to be shared among the keyboard sounds.

In the end it is harder to find missing things in a manuall then to find whats actually there. So let me ask you pa4x players, what features are you missing on the pa4x, both comming from your experience with previous Korg arrangers as well as as your experience with other brands.

Hello I miss the Freeze function.
Greeting Gerd

Hi Bachus

Personally (and I repeat "personally") I am seriously not missing anything.

Pete

GerdH wrote:Hello I miss the Freeze function.
Greeting Gerd

freeze... ????

Isnt that something we dont want? Our keyboard freezing up?

GerdH wrote:Hello I miss the Freeze function.
Greeting Gerd

It was there for a while but fortunately it was removed with different updates from Korg...

The 2nd one is only having a single IFX to be shared among the keyboard sounds.
+1 i will be happy if i will have 2 ifx for each track so can use for drums bass piano and guitars. i find some sounds like trumpets etc when going up on high octave on my pa4x 76 key sounds like its not sampled on upper octave ( the saxophone sounds like it is sampled all the way) i created a new brass section when playing upper it sounds like getting lost somewhere i wish its getting fixed besides that i love my interment this is the best yom

eli125 wrote:The 2nd one is only having a single IFX to be shared among the keyboard sounds.
+1 i will be happy if i will have 2 ifx for each track so can use for drums bass piano and guitars. i find some sounds like trumpets etc when going up on high octave on my pa4x 76 key sounds like its not sampled on upper octave ( the saxophone sounds like it is sampled all the way) i created a new brass section when playing upper it sounds like getting lost somewhere i wish its getting fixed besides that i love my interment this is the best yom

Maybe its not sampled there because it is out of reach of an actuall trumpet.. the reach of a real trumpet isnt that huge..

If you miss a third (also a fourth) splitpoint simple use Top/Bottom Key of KeyRange of your UpperKeyboardTracks and feel free to make as much splitpoints as you have tracks on right hand. Its an feature each Pa-Keyboards offers since more than ten years.

If you miss Freeze functions simple use Lock functions - it is same but is not named freeze but lock.

If one had experience with previous model of Korg and used that features that made the difference, now would miss VP-Presets and StylePreferences to be memorized in STS/KbdSets, as - unfortunately now positioned in Globals. Or maybe the StyleChange-Feature, because missing Links between KbdSets and Styles, or maybe the "old" but efficient Fill-Mode, or maybe AutoSelect-Sound ... think for the time being is enough here, but also read threads like "developers fatal mistake".

Splitpoints or freeze are functions to be found if you really want to learn how to use functions of your instrument - but in case functions disappeared without replacement you loose flexibility you had before.

As always, that does not apply to users that never used that (advanced) features, or did not know them, or did not know how to apply them. Although features were present now "personally" not missing anything of them - similar also never missed something in Pa-models before, until randomly some of really missings were reimplemented with OS-update.

I would like more useful controls assignment to Assign A&B. The assignments offered don't let me adjust the elements of the sounds. The default elements of ASDR and LFO for the Amp Envelopes can be useful but really are not enough. Moving filters are what make sounds interesting. Many, many more control elements for Assign A&B.

siebenhirter wrote:If you miss a third (also a fourth) splitpoint simple use Top/Bottom Key of KeyRange of your UpperKeyboardTracks and feel free to make as much splitpoints as you have tracks on right hand. Its an feature each Pa-Keyboards offers since more than ten years.

I tried to find this in the manuall, but can not find it, would you mind explaining how this is done...

Bachus wrote: ..I tried to find this in the manuall, but can not find it, would you mind explaining how this is done...

.. is explained in advanced editing of the Sound sets, Manual Pa4x page 118

Bachus wrote:

eli125 wrote:The 2nd one is only having a single IFX to be shared among the keyboard sounds.
+1 i will be happy if i will have 2 ifx for each track so can use for drums bass piano and guitars. i find some sounds like trumpets etc when going up on high octave on my pa4x 76 key sounds like its not sampled on upper octave ( the saxophone sounds like it is sampled all the way) i created a new brass section when playing upper it sounds like getting lost somewhere i wish its getting fixed besides that i love my interment this is the best yom

Maybe its not sampled there because it is out of reach of an actuall trumpet.. the reach of a real trumpet isnt that huge..

i can hear trumpets going up that high but hear it sounds like someone is singing on a high note when he cant

siebenhirter wrote:

Bachus wrote: ..I tried to find this in the manuall, but can not find it, would you mind explaining how this is done...

.. is explained in advanced editing of the Sound sets, Manual Pa4x page 118

Thank you kindly, indeed found it on page 181.. Which leaves on less thing to be desired.

Hi Guys,

It's only a small thing, but seeing as you asked the question. I play organ style, which is with the PA4X as the upper manual, a midi keyboard for the lower manual and a set of Roland PK5 bass pedals for the bass. Basically the same as an organ setup.
The lower manual and the pedals are connected via midi cables. Problem is the PA4X has only one midi in socket. Therefore I had to pay out £80 for a midi merge unit which plugs into the mains. I then put two midi cables into that and it produces one midi out that goes into the Korg PA4X.
Here is my gripe, I regularly read forum members saying that the Korg PA4X is a professional keyboard and the Tyros 5 is for home players because of the Tyros 5's lack of editing facilities. I don't need a midi merge unit on the Tyos 5 as it has two assignable midi in ports.
Which arranger has the most professional settings for 'midi ports' ? Tyros 5 I think.

Chris

I wish the Chord Sequencer could be activated while recording a Backing Sequence (Quick Record) in Sequencer mode.

I wind up having to manually program the chords through Step Backing Sequence, which can be a bit tedious.