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FM Question

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2016 6:18 pm
by hanzde
Hi
i want to use the V/FM for a analog synth in my DAW
my question ist then i connect the fm with a midi to usb on my computer can i use it like a usual synth or did i need midi out?
i wont press rec and play on the volca and everything is recordet in the DAW

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2016 8:14 pm
by OpAmp
Hi,

You can connect the Volca FM to your pc and use it as a synth.
Hook the headphone output of the FM to an audio input of your pc to record the sound.
Play straight away on the FM (as there is no MIDI OUT on the FM you can not capture the notes in your DAW for editing afterwards).
Or, draw the notes in the DAW on a MIDI track or record them via an external MIDI controller and send them afterwards to the Volca FM (via the USB to MIDI cable.)

Btw, the FM is NOT an analog synth. It is pure digital...

Bye.

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 2:26 am
by hanzde
thy for the answer i try to record a melodie there i put the ninijack into the headphone out and the other side of thr cable into my mic in on thr pc the result was realy bad there was so much noise the recordet sound was unusable im using Fl Studio by the way and i want just press rec and play somthing on the volca that will be recordet into pianoroll for further editing likr with a usual soft synth
to the analog thing i should have writed to use my hardwaresynth
so for my porpose i will need a midiout mod right?
THX

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:55 am
by spirit68
midi out does not send any sound, just notes and knob positions. if noise was too much, try to run your fm on batteries and/or get a decent audio interface. and turn volume up.

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:13 pm
by OpAmp
@hanzde
Not sure what you want to do exactly. But if you want to play on the FM and record that into a pianoroll for further editing, you need indeed the MIDI OUT mod. But then you better invest and use an external MIDI controller, that you record in FL and forward the MIDI notes to the Volca FM.

The noisy sound, mmh, look at the proposal of spriit68. You better use a line in instead of the mic on your pc. Pay attention with turning the volume up. It helps to reduce the noise versus the sound, but if you turn it too high, you may overdrive your the input on the PC, which causes distortion. That is maybe the noise you hear. Note that the headphone out on the FM can drive headphonespeakers, which is different than driving the input of a recording device.

Have fun.

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 9:08 pm
by hanzde
[quote="OpAmp"]@hanzde
Not sure what you want to do exactly. But if you want to play on the FM and record that into a pianoroll for further editing, you need indeed the MIDI OUT mod. But then you better invest and use an external MIDI controller, that you record in FL and forward the MIDI notes to the Volca FM.


whats exacly waht i wabt to do

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 10:07 pm
by Spheric El
The difference between your regular softsynths on your piano roll (FL) and a hardware box like volca fm are quite large ,regarding methods of use and results.
I would hesitate in needing a midi mod out (straight away) and try and work with what you've got at the moment ...maybe.
You need to sort your audio into FL from your volca first.So try line In on your comp,not Mic.
Record some audio.Then use FLs to edit ,tweak that ,either with fx ,automation or cut ups -and see how that goes.
Also get a midi cable from your comp into midi In on volca and use your piano roll to program volca,then combine notes of your sequencer too.
Maybe :?: These are just suggestions .Only you know how you want to work :)

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 10:26 pm
by hanzde

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2016 4:14 pm
by Spheric El
If I remember correctly that is just for midi.
You still need to record your audio into fruity loops,regardless of which midi sequencer triggers your volca notes (either volca step seq,FL pianoroll seq or a combo of both).
Try to get your volca recording audio into your comp(FL) first.


Forgive me if I'm wrong,but it sounds like you want your volca to record just like a soft synth in FL? You need to consider external hardware differently, as an audio track recording or (at least) an audio sample in FL, regardless of any piano roll seq or volca step seq. You need both (audio & midi).

Correct me if I'm missing your request with this post.
It's important to be aware you need both audio and midi triggers for hardware and first and foremost FL needs to record and capture that audio ...via a mini jack stereo 35mm into your line in on pc ,if it has one ,or via an audio interface.

Hope this is helping and I'm understanding you.Let me know if I'm way off :)

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:36 pm
by hanzde
yes ur right Spheric EI
i want to use the fm like a soft synth so i can push rec playsomthing in so
i can make changes or whatever in the pianoroll
so to use this interface ur talked abot i still need midi out on the fm right?
i find this site they sell solderless midiout mods for all volca exept the new kick
http://www.usbtri.be/usbtribe_volca.html
and im not sure if its worth the time and money to buy this run it truh an interface to my pc into fl or other software but better where fl to have full edtibility or simple a kabel from sound out on the fm into mic in the pc and rec

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:52 pm
by hanzde
OpAmp wrote:@hanzde
Not sure what you want to do exactly. But if you want to play on the FM and record that into a pianoroll for further editing, you need indeed the MIDI OUT mod. But then you better invest and use an external MIDI controller, that you record in FL and forward the MIDI notes to the Volca FM.

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so with this external midi controller i dont need the midiout on the volca fm right?and u say with this controller i rec in fl to fm but i want play in the fm to fl like a usual softsynth or i miss somthing im new with external hardware i always used software

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 7:57 pm
by OpAmp
You understand me right.
You record your performance with the external keyboard on FL. That one registers the notes in a track and you can edit them. You also set up FL to forward these notes to the MIDI IN of the FM. This generates the sound on the FM, which record back in FL. In the audio track, you can not edit the notes anymore... That is why you start with the notes in a MIDI track in FL.

The MIDI out mod is only useful if you're very into using the touch keyboard of the FM itself. I doubt that there is someone like that... But then again, you stilll need to record that into a MIDI track of FL for further editing in the pianoroll and send back those MIDI Notes to the FM module to produce the sound, which you also want to record.

Try to read some tutorials about MIDI. In fact the principle holds for softsynths as well, the only thing is that the soundgeneration is immediately done in your PC, so not hassle with MIDI and audio cables...

Bye.

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 10:29 pm
by hanzde
THx know i got it