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Playlist question

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 9:26 am
by tombikadam
I've created my own styles, seems like 30 or something, while on stage how can I make a smooth transition between songs without stopping

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:42 am
by pawlikp100
I am afraid it is not possible with styles. Especially if we talk about smooth transitions.

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:43 am
by tombikadam
what must I do then? :roll:

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 11:21 am
by Bernie9
Maybe I am not understanding why you need rapid fire continuity for thirty songs, but it would seem the 15 seconds or so that it takes to go to the next song in you setlist is not much at all. I am sure it isn't a medley of that length.

If you need it for dancing, people need a break. If for general entertainment, a little patter between songs would be sufficient. Best of all, at times, "silence is golden".

My apologies if there is a bonifide need for no time space in between. If so, I guess you could record it to midi or audio.

Bernie

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 11:23 am
by pawlikp100
tombikadam wrote:what must I do then? :roll:
You can record your performance and then just use any kind of DJ software or even Winamp with a propriety plugin for smooth transitions.

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 12:16 pm
by tombikadam
it seems to me that spacing out 5-10 sec. between everysong is wierd because there will be a gap but so be it, no problem, why didn't KORG think about that this is very interesting

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 1:10 pm
by Bernie9
I have been doing this for a very long time and every situation is different, as well as the performer, but there a thing called saturation, which overloads the audience attention, with less anticipation to the next song, and the brain has a chance for a breather. Too long and there uneasiness. Just watch other performers and you will never see 30 back to back songs without a break. The exception would be if people were on the dance floor when the song ended. In that case, one song might not be enough, and you should roll right into a song with a similar beat and tempo.

Believe it or not, few of us are so breath taking as to disappoint the audience by a few seconds of silence, and a relief to some. If you can, say a few words and bond with the people. Believe me, it goes a long way.

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 1:52 pm
by johnnie
Bernie9 wrote:I have been doing this for a very long time and every situation is different, as well as the performer, but there a thing called saturation, which overloads the audience attention, with less anticipation to the next song, and the brain has a chance for a breather. Too long and there uneasiness. Just watch other performers and you will never see 30 back to back songs without a break. The exception would be if people were on the dance floor when the song ended. In that case, one song might not be enough, and you should roll right into a song with a similar beat and tempo.

Believe it or not, few of us are so breath taking as to disappoint the audience by a few seconds of silence, and a relief to some. If you can, say a few words and bond with the people. Believe me, it goes a long way.
30 minutes of back to back songs is a lengthy jaunt. Say 3 mins a song makes about an hour and a half continuous playing and the same for an audience to listen to its hard to see how the listeners take it all in.

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 2:14 pm
by Uncle Dave
Of course you can blend seamlessly from one style to another ... I've been doing that for EVER. I keep my tempo lock ON, so I can do that within a song, too.

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 2:57 pm
by Bernie9
Good idea, maybe, to group his styles by tempo, and be semi seamless, at least.

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 10:15 pm
by mintjamman
I always look on this that Discos offer back to back music where as the live performer(s) are able to offer more dynamic options. It depends on the type of gigs you do, if you play dance floors and raves then the audience expect back to back mixing of songs whereas the lounge or wine bar performers need ebb and flow. If you play functions then you need a mix of all of the above but having live players and vocalists it's important to try and bond with the audience and inject the human factor into your show.

Having played live gigs most of my performance years I have experienced all of the above scenarios and then some. I either work in a Trio or Solo now days with deps in a 5 and 7 piece lineup. With the Pa4x it allows me to slip in and out of any of these acts each with sepereate Setlists made up. In the full band situations I use the Setlist as a basic memory for calling up different patches for different songs those patches named as song titles, that works well.

In the trio or solo situations where we or I will be working with styles/MP3s/midi files again configured as Setlists, I don't find any issue with gaps between songs if you plan things. Continuous music can be fatiguing and making a gap for some chat, the odd joke while your setting the next song can be positive imho.

Music after all is a method of communication as is speech

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 3:13 am
by Sam CA
I rarely play anywhere anymore, but when I did I used to organize the Styles based on their tempo and rhythm/feel. Obviously there's going to be a hiccup when changing from one style to another ...that is if you just change the style randomly. If you try to select the new Style on a particular beat of the bar (Most likely the last beat of the current bar), the downbeat of the 2nd Style falls on the first beat of whatever Style you were playing...You can make it work to have a smooth/seamless transition. It always worked for me...

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 4:20 am
by karmathanever
Uncle Dave wrote:Of course you can blend seamlessly from one style to another ... I've been doing that for EVER. I keep my tempo lock ON, so I can do that within a song, too.
Yep - been doing that for a long time too

(Yet another important performance option that Tyros doesn't have :wink: )

P :D

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 4:29 am
by Sam CA
The reason I didn't use the Tempo lock was that sometimes I'd forget to turn it off. So I just learned how to switch styles manually without making a mess.

Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2016 6:12 pm
by tombikadam
uncle dave can you make a video that shows smooth transition between 2 styles or more? would be much educational