"Futuristc" synth GENESIS 1

Ksynth · Post by **Ksynth** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 3:49 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxfffg55gQc

I like the look.

Timo · Post by **Timo** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 4:48 pm

There it is. The holy grail is almost in sight.

Add basic internet interactivity to connect you to a dedicated webshop, allowing you to buy and personalise first- or third-party plugins (instruments, effects) and/or software-modules (sequencers, midi interactivity) to completely customise your device and workflow, and you're all the way there.

Make it one super long, bezel-less LCD instead of two.

Game, set, match.

Synth workstation evolution completed.

Broadwave · Post by **Broadwave** » Wed Nov 16, 2016 7:32 am

It's very similar to a VST synth controller I've been working on. Mine's not as nicely built and It only has the one 23" touch screen at the moment. The detail is in the software he's using (I wonder what it is?) - I'm just using eaReckon's BloXpander and Image Line's Minihost Modular as the touch interface, it's pretty basic but it works well, especially with Reaktor where you can build any synth you want and have it under touch control.

The things you get up to when you have too much time on your hands, eh?

Kevin Nolan · Post by **Kevin Nolan** » Wed Nov 16, 2016 3:27 pm

Flat screens are almost as bad as it gets for tactile response and interaction. There's no comparison between a synth depending on a flat screen and, say, a Jupiter 8.

There is no chance that the future of synthesis will look like this.

Kontrol49 · Post by **Kontrol49** » Wed Nov 16, 2016 6:15 pm

Kevin Nolan wrote:Flat screens are almost as bad as it gets for tactile response and interaction. There's no comparison between a synth depending on a flat screen and, say, a Jupiter 8.

There is no chance that the future of synthesis will look like this.

That depends on who the future musicians will be and for whom these instruments are aimed at,for those of us Oldskool Keyboard players there is nothing more gratifying than using a traditional knobby interface and I am the first to admit I don't get the same interaction with touch screens/Ipads etc,give me a knob/Slider physical interface anyday of the week.

I have tried to embrace the touch screens and apps idea of music it but it just doesn't work for my flow,even though I do utilise a few iPad apps and stuff its a secondary part of a hybrid affair for me.

I recognise the importance of this newer technology and how things are changing but I have yet to see it completely revolutionise and simplify what has been the normal for decades of me making music,I don't want to spend time learning a new interface that on the surface only does the same thing only virtually when I can switch on my normal synths and simply play without having to reinvent the wheel all the time.

However There is a whole different generation of musicians now who have grown up in this digital age of touch screens and apps,Its quite shocking the amount of young children you see nowadays that utilise all this newer technology and embrace it as if it was always the norm,they are the ones whom will be the newer generation.

Kontrol49 · Post by **Kontrol49** » Wed Nov 16, 2016 6:20 pm

Doh! double Post

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Wed Nov 16, 2016 6:35 pm

Kevin Nolan wrote:There is no chance that the future of synthesis will look like this.

There totally is. Once all the old farts who are set too much in their old ways leave this planet.

Broadwave · Post by **Broadwave** » Wed Nov 16, 2016 6:58 pm

Kevin Nolan wrote:Flat screens are almost as bad as it gets for tactile response and interaction. There's no comparison between a synth depending on a flat screen and, say, a Jupiter 8.

There is no chance that the future of synthesis will look like this.

EvilDragon wrote: There totally is. Once all the old farts who are set too much in their old ways leave this planet.

The point is that it's NOT a Jupiter 8, Memorymoog, Oberheim 2/4/8, CS80 etc. and neither is it intended to be.

Personally, I don't want it to continue the way it is/was. Clogged up sliders, unresponsive switches, the guitarists pint spilled, and don't even mention repairing bent or worn out J-Wires on old ARPs & Moogs. Mechanically controlled synths are on the way out - embrace the new technology

Seriously though, I rarely interact with synth panels when playing live anyway (I've only got the two hands, and they're usually busy with the keys). I generally set up patches specifically to use aftertouch/wheels/pedals etc. to "perform" with, so I can live quite happily without knobs on synths, but they are handy for initial programing.

Kevin Nolan · Post by **Kevin Nolan** » Thu Nov 17, 2016 12:28 am

EvilDragon wrote:
Kevin Nolan wrote:There is no chance that the future of synthesis will look like this.
There totally is. Once all the old farts who are set too much in their old ways leave this planet.

So is Lang Lang set in his ways for using a piano?

You think flat screens are the future - really - you think that? That's the future. That's the extent of your imagination on or contribution to this topic?? Care to qualify your view? Care to qualify what you see as outmoded about physical / tactile control - don't be coy, tell us more ...

Bald Eagle · Post by **Bald Eagle** » Thu Nov 17, 2016 7:58 am

I don't think that touch screens will replace other more traditional control surfaces with knobs, sliders and buttons. Rather they will supplement them. I would love a Kronos class synth with a giant pressure sensitive touch screen on one side and real knobs like the Sub 37 on the other. Add an extra bank assignable faders and buttons for good measure.

Broadwave · Post by **Broadwave** » Thu Nov 17, 2016 9:34 am

Bald Eagle wrote:I would love a Kronos class synth with a giant pressure sensitive touch screen

+1

Eee by 'eck - You've just given me an idea... I'll be back later

Post by **Sharp** » Sat Nov 19, 2016 11:32 am

Looks deadly.

As I said before, just like ordering an ATX case for a custom PC builds, we need something like that for Keyboards.

Sharp.

Akos Janca · Post by **Akos Janca** » Sat Nov 19, 2016 12:59 pm

I think it looks and sounds very nice - no revolutionary though - and it's a great solution for these kind of performances. But for many other purposes we need the usual tactile controls, too.

Bachus · Post by **Bachus** » Sat Nov 19, 2016 3:23 pm

Kevin Nolan wrote:Flat screens are almost as bad as it gets for tactile response and interaction. There's no comparison between a synth depending on a flat screen and, say, a Jupiter 8.

There is no chance that the future of synthesis will look like this.

This however totally changes when you add a masterkey with sliders, knobs, programmable buttons and pads.. to the huge touchscreen....

a touchscreen interface can work miracles when it comes to non real time content creation... and access to edditors and stuff....

Broadwave · Post by **Broadwave** » Sat Nov 19, 2016 11:15 pm

Bachus wrote: a touchscreen interface can work miracles when it comes to non real time content creation... and access to edditors and stuff....

I'm currently trying out Chrutil's AL-1 Windows editor on the 23" screen - It works very well, not perfectly, but easier and more enjoyable than shoving a mouse around.

Sharp wrote: As I said before, just like ordering an ATX case for a custom PC builds, we need something like that for Keyboards.

+1.

I suppose we're really thinking of a more affordable Open Labs Neko type system, maybe it was a tad too ahead of it's time. A less expensive version would probably do well now - I'd certainly buy one.

I threw mine together in a few days, just to see what it would be like. I'd like to make something far more elegant, but the chassis is too expensive to have fabricated. I could reduce the bulk by using the guts of a laptop and remove the PCBs from the ADAT interface enclosures. Doepfer have a nice DIY controller interface board which could be integrated - maybe a project for next year, but at the moment I'm busy with another DIY synth build