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In Korg Brussels gadget there is a pump effect. It sounds really good for EDM. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUQCghwDdVY

I'd like to use it on stage with the Kronos. Do you know how?

I can connect my iPhone with my MoXf6 and use the DAW feature but since I sold my MoXF and I don't want to use my iPhone.

Thanks,

The "pumping" is a side chained compressor being triggered by something like a kick drum. Basically whenever the kick drum hits (whether you actually hear the kickdrum or not, it's going to the compressor) the compressor pushes down on the track/part you set it on.
The compressor has a release time where it slowly releases the downward push, this is what you hear as the rising/sucking sound.

You can do this on Kronos by using a drum track with a four on the floor kick pattern (you probably have to make one). You direct the output of the DT to an FX control channel and use that to trigger the compressor on your synth track. Of course this means the tempo is fixed to whatever your Kronos clock is set to. Alternatively, you can use an actual live input like a kickdrum mic and do the same thing.

Personally I keep it simple and use a volume pedal that I kick back on every beat/kickdrum. Takes a little practice but it's quite realistic and easy to follow live tempo.

FYI - Here's a Kronos side chaining tutorial bij Qui Robinez:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCZfox4VwAk

SanderXpander wrote:The "pumping" is a side chained compressor being triggered by something like a kick drum. Basically whenever the kick drum hits (whether you actually hear the kickdrum or not, it's going to the compressor) the compressor pushes down on the track/part you set it on.
The compressor has a release time where it slowly releases the downward push, this is what you hear as the rising/sucking sound.

You can do this on Kronos by using a drum track with a four on the floor kick pattern (you probably have to make one). You direct the output of the DT to an FX control channel and use that to trigger the compressor on your synth track. Of course this means the tempo is fixed to whatever your Kronos clock is set to. Alternatively, you can use an actual live input like a kickdrum mic and do the same thing.

Personally I keep it simple and use a volume pedal that I kick back on every beat/kickdrum. Takes a little practice but it's quite realistic and easy to follow live tempo.

Thanks, very interesting. I'll try it out. Will get back to you if I have a problem.

tomto66 wrote:FYI - Here's a Kronos side chaining tutorial bij Qui Robinez:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCZfox4VwAk

Thanks

How do you set up the volume pedal for this to work?

Thanks,

SanderXpander wrote:The "pumping" is a side chained compressor being triggered by something like a kick drum. Basically whenever the kick drum hits (whether you actually hear the kickdrum or not, it's going to the compressor) the compressor pushes down on the track/part you set it on.
The compressor has a release time where it slowly releases the downward push, this is what you hear as the rising/sucking sound.

You can do this on Kronos by using a drum track with a four on the floor kick pattern (you probably have to make one). You direct the output of the DT to an FX control channel and use that to trigger the compressor on your synth track. Of course this means the tempo is fixed to whatever your Kronos clock is set to. Alternatively, you can use an actual live input like a kickdrum mic and do the same thing.

Personally I keep it simple and use a volume pedal that I kick back on every beat/kickdrum. Takes a little practice but it's quite realistic and easy to follow live tempo.

Set the pedal to control "expression" in the global menu.

Just to be clear the effect in gadget is a fake side chain compression. It's just auto animating the volume to the beat. The electribe has this effect as well. The kronos does not have a built in pump effect so you have to do it the legitimate way by routing through a compressor correctly. A difference you'll notice is how it depends on the kick drum. If the drums are absent the sound will not necessarily have the pumping effect. Outside of side chain compression, you may be able to imitate the effect easily with a tremolo insert effect synced to midi tempo but I've never tried it so I'm not certain about how convincing it will be.

Or with a manually operated expression pedal.