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JV1080 added to Roland Cloud

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 9:02 am
by xp50player
It has been modeled as a DCB synth, not sampled. It has 1083 PCM waveforms, much more than the original, and coincidentally equal to the number offered in the later XV series. The multi-effects are expanded, with SRV reverbs, though still limited to one, with chorus and standard reverb. Single part, 128 note polyphony.

Re: JV1080 added to Roland Cloud

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 10:46 am
by Bachus
xp50player wrote:It has been modeled as a DCB synth, not sampled. It has 1083 PCM waveforms, much more than the original, and coincidentally equal to the number offered in the later XV series. The multi-effects are expanded, with SRV reverbs, though still limited to one, with chorus and standard reverb. Single part, 128 note polyphony.
lovely, leaves just one question...

Did the performance improve from all these VST´s.? i did a free 30 days test about a year ago, but the performance kept me from subbing.. if that improves the Roland cloud with all the additions is a remarkable product.

Re: JV1080 added to Roland Cloud

Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 1:01 am
by Davd C. Polich
Bachus wrote:
xp50player wrote:It has been modeled as a DCB synth, not sampled. It has 1083 PCM waveforms, much more than the original, and coincidentally equal to the number offered in the later XV series. The multi-effects are expanded, with SRV reverbs, though still limited to one, with chorus and standard reverb. Single part, 128 note polyphony.
lovely, leaves just one question...

Did the performance improve from all these VST´s.? i did a free 30 days test about a year ago, but the performance kept me from subbing.. if that improves the Roland cloud with all the additions is a remarkable product.
I've never had an issue with performance, but I am using AU format on a Mac, so I don't know if there are still issues with VST or with VST and Windows.

Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 7:56 am
by Derek Cook
Performance is fine over here on both of my music computers on WIN10. The Jupiter 8 is a bit of a hog

Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 8:40 am
by demonp
Not a fan of subscriptions! Skip.

Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 4:15 pm
by SeedyLee
I bought an actual JV1080 for $100. It is an extremely accurate model, doesn't require an internet connection, never crashes - and I own it in perpetuity! Plus it's compatible with virtually every operating system.

Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 4:53 pm
by afr
Next step Will be a boutique 1080

Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 6:12 pm
by demonp
afr wrote:Next step Will be a boutique 1080
That would be a real deal!

Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:11 pm
by John01W
demonp wrote:
afr wrote:Next step Will be a boutique 1080
That would be a real deal!
Except that it's not commonly known that the boutique modules(digital ones) have inherent latency.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmnXzoCktOY

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Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:00 pm
by Davd C. Polich
SeedyLee wrote:I bought an actual JV1080 for $100. It is an extremely accurate model, doesn't require an internet connection, never crashes - and I own it in perpetuity! Plus it's compatible with virtually every operating system.
Of course.

I have a JV 2080 in perfect condition. So why would I want the RC JV 1080?
One big reason - I work as a keyboard tech for a certain well-known music producer whose onstage electronics we are migrating from the old hardware (including the JV-1080, or 2080) to software. The hardware he uses is getting really old and harder to find from backline rental companies, it is bulky and takes up too much space, and frankly I spend a lot of time hunting down
grounding problems associated with the hardware, not to mention outputs and even MIDI connections failing on the hardware units.

Up until now, there simply has been nothing in software that replicates the
JV-1080 "SA E.P 1" patch. I was able to program a close copy of it on the Yamaha Montage, but that just puts me back in the hardware solution, which
is what we want to avoid.

Now that I have that sound in a software instrument, bye-bye the JV racks,
and good riddance as far as I'm concerned.

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 5:28 am
by xp50player
Some of these patches stand up today, but so many of them are bad Rompler sounds that won’t be missed.
The D-50 VSTi sounds so much more fresh to me, partially because I didn’t own several and run them into the ground like the XP/JVs, but also due to the non-emulative hybrid quality and breadth of new patch banks.
One thing that would help is if the JV1080 VSTi would load my old .SVD patch files.

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 4:33 pm
by Kontrol49
demonp wrote:
afr wrote:Next step Will be a boutique 1080
That would be a real deal!

Much like the D50 Boutique????

I don't really understand why Roland made the D50 Boutique,theres plenty of secondhand D50's to be had for Peanuts... far less than the price of a Boutique,they don't exactly command the high prices of real rarer items like TR808/909/303s

The JV1080 Module can be had for less than $100 so I doubt a boutique would make such an impact,plus most of the sample ROM has been recycled to death in every other Roland Module/Workstation so theres plenty of other far better options including the Integra7

I've had 3 JV1080's in my time as much as it has some good sounds for its generation,its pretty dated soundwise now unless you want that specific Sound or a certain preset I expect the Cloud version to be more than sufficient for most nostalgic users of it,I couldn't see it being a huge seller as a Boutique model,even as a synth Head of 40 years and Owner of all the original devices Roland have released in Boutique Form I have zero interest in any of the Boutiques,I just don't dig the Miniaturisation of everything,devices may have become smaller and more compact for practical reasons over the years but my Fingers haven't!!!

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 8:10 am
by SeedyLee
I love my Roland JV1080. An accurate recreation of acoustic and vintage electronic sounds it is not. But I has a certain warmth and character to it and it's a reasonably capable synth engine. It's great for ethereal pads and so forth.

I'm a bit of a musical luddite as I basically do all my music with hardware, mostly as I got sick of the constant compatibility issues and copy protection schemes.