KARO Virtual Analog Bank (128 patches) for Oasys

RC-IA · Post by **RC-IA** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 11:39 am

Hello!

Remember (my 64 AL1 patches):

http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... highlight=

NOW:

Here's the demo of Karo Programs (64, mostly MS20 and Polysix). I used 14 patches, a drum track and a male speaking voice.

http://perso.orange.fr/rcmusic/KVA.mp3

So, the 128 patches bank is now ready. KARO will inform you of shipping date and price. The bank (along with the demo songs) will be on a 1 GB usb stick.

Thank you,

Richard

sebbytriton · Post by **sebbytriton** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 6:08 pm

Goods news !!!!!!!!!!!

Just a question, why a 1 GB usb stick to store a bank that don't contains any sample ?

I'm gonna listen to this demo now

RC-IA · Post by **RC-IA** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 6:10 pm

sebbytriton wrote:Goods news !!!!!!!!!!!

Just a question, why a 1 GB usb stick to store a bank that don't contains any sample ?

I'm gonna listen to this demo now

I don't know may be so that the buyers would have a stick that they'll use for other things

sebbytriton · Post by **sebbytriton** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 6:15 pm

Always a great moment to listen yours demos !!!!!
Good works, very deep sound for this bank.

I'm waiting for a comment from KORG .............

It's time for KORG to upgrade OASYS to allow more bank storage !!!

RC-IA · Post by **RC-IA** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:00 pm

thanx seb. agree with the bank stuff, but maybe it's more complicated than we think

Post by **Sharp** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 8:12 pm

I don't know may be so that the buyers would have a stick that they'll use for other things

Will there be a 250GB hard disk edition too

I'm only joking, but I would highly recommend that you consider making this available without the memory stick, and downloadable. Everyone here will already have a memory stick, and the postal service is not the best way to delver such a tiny file. An email, or electronic download would be far better, and would cut down on all these unnecessary costs that your adding.

PCG files are generally either given away for free, or they are easily available electronically for very little cost. So, making it easily available will greatly help it's success.

Anyway.... Yeah baby. Love the sounds !!!
Your Mp3 is pumping away here, and my head is nodding with a big smile. Will be keeping my eye open for it's release.

Kind Regards.
Sharp.

danatkorg · Post by **danatkorg** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 8:33 pm

sebbytriton wrote:Always a great moment to listen yours demos !!!!!
Good works, very deep sound for this bank.

I'm waiting for a comment from KORG .............

It's time for KORG to upgrade OASYS to allow more bank storage !!!

Loading a bank from disk takes a couple of seconds....

- Dan

RC-IA · Post by **RC-IA** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 9:27 pm

sharp: maybe karo will see your comment about the stick

regarding cost, there are many sound designer companies who charge for patches Bank...

thanx for your comments regarding the sounds

sebbytriton · Post by **sebbytriton** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 9:59 pm

danatkorg wrote:
sebbytriton wrote:Always a great moment to listen yours demos !!!!!
Good works, very deep sound for this bank.

I'm waiting for a comment from KORG .............

It's time for KORG to upgrade OASYS to allow more bank storage !!!
Loading a bank from disk takes a couple of seconds....

- Dan

Yes Dan, for sure we can do this but if I want to have all the PCG bank loader at powerup, is it a shame ?
For loading a large amoint of sample, I understand in some case we have to do a chioce but for PCG the memory usage is very less important.

Why not having the possibilities to Hav Bank -A1/A2/A3 .... instead of only Bank-A ?

If I want a fully loaded OASYS at power-up with all the future bank of RC-IA it is difficult to know in advance what bank I'm gonna use.

Post by **Sharp** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 10:18 pm

Hi RC-IA

regarding cost, there are many sound designer companies who charge for patches Bank...

Yeah, for sure, and this is exactly my point.
They price the files very well, and they do not force people to by a memory stick, and expect delivery by post. They ALL only supply them as a download.

PCG files have been so freely available for years that, for you to release one commercially, you really need to focus on making it as easy to purchase and have it priced correctly.

Meaning, I think forcing people to buy a small file on a 1GB memory stick, and through the postal service is an unnecessary cost. It will push up the price for no real reason, and delay things.

Hope you see what I'm getting at here. You have a a great bank of sounds here and if distribution is done right, you can sell it for less, and make more profit.

Buying hardware (1GB memory sticks) and paying postal charges is of no benefit to your pocket.

Kind Regards.
Sharp.

RC-IA · Post by **RC-IA** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 10:28 pm

sharp, i'm quite ok with you

i'll talk about it to Karo

i think what fears them it's the illegal copy. we'll see. thanx for your advice

Post by **Sharp** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 10:54 pm

i think what fears them it's the illegal copy

There's nothing they can do to prevent that sadly.
Not even KORG's EXs libraries protect the PCG data, and they are built in at the OS level.

Regards.
Sharp.

danatkorg · Post by **danatkorg** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 11:28 pm

sebbytriton wrote:For loading a large amoint of sample, I understand in some case we have to do a chioce but for PCG the memory usage is very less important.

Why not having the possibilities to Hav Bank -A1/A2/A3 .... instead of only Bank-A ?

Program and Combi banks are pretty big, actually. Doubling or tripling the number would mean, for instance, that the EXs2 piano could not be loaded on a stock 1GB system.

sebbytriton wrote: If I want a fully loaded OASYS at power-up with all the future bank of RC-IA it is difficult to know in advance what bank I'm gonna use.

PCGs can store entire setups for the whole OASYS, including all Programs, Combis, Wave Sequences, Drum Kits, etc. The disk can hold hundreds or thousands of PCG files (for *millions* of sounds), and they load in seconds. It's a central part of the system, in my opinion.

I'm curious; how many people use the disk to store and load PCGs?

- Dan

Post by **Sharp** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 11:54 pm

I'm curious; how many people use the disk to store and load PCGs?

I would use disk space heavily for storage, but I would also only have a single PCG file that would contain everything I would ever use.

Loading other PCG files for me creates incompatibility with SNG files I would have been working on for clients and myself. So, I tend to only ever depend on 1 PCG file.

Otherwise I would need to keep track of sounds, and I'd probably end a new PCG file for every few songs. This is the way I've worked for years, and it's somthing I've stuck with.

Regards.
Sharp.

danatkorg · Post by **danatkorg** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 12:11 am

Sharp wrote:Otherwise I would need to keep track of sounds, and I'd probably end a new PCG file for every few songs..

That's exactly what I would recommend - and is also the way that the system is set up! The magic part is that it means that you *don't* have to keep track of sounds; the PCG for the song or project will always have the right stuff for that project, even if you do other things later.

- Dan