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Factory Sound and Style Reordering - Two Questions

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 1:58 pm
by Rob Sherratt
I have heard rumours of several people who have "reordered" the factory sounds on the Pa1x. I want to maintain compatibility with other users' styles etc, but there are two things I'd like to do and I wonder whether anyone could instruct me how to do it?

Question 1:

When you select factory sounds, some sound banks have 4 pages of 8 entries, some have 7 or 8 pages of entries etc. There are some pages with fewer than 8 entries.

What I'd like to be able to do is to produce my own variants of the factory sound data structure in order to create a number of "spare locations" available to store the variants under each of the factory sound bank headings. I don't want to put the entries I create under the User 1, 2, or 3 sound banks because I want to keep Pianos under the Piano tab, Strings under the Strings tab etc. If it was necessary to sacrifice say the 128 User2 storage locations to achieve the storage space for this, then this is a sacrifice I would willingly make.

Same question for Styles, ie sacrifice User2 style entries in order to distribute them as spare locations under the Factory style headings "Rock", Latin 1" etc.

The modified spare storage locations should be protectable using the factory style & song protect lock in the same way as the actual factory styles & songs are protected.

Has anyone managed to modify the Korg Musical Resources v3 data structure in such a way to create these extra "spare" sound locations under each style and sound bank heading?

Question 2:

Is it possible to reorder the Musical Resources v3 database for the Pa1x so that the data structure becomes as nearly compatible as possible with the Pa2x and Pa800 - so that Pa2x and Pa800 styles will play directly on the Pa1x (albeit with a few frills such as guitar mode missing) ?

Of course the modification from question 1 would be needed as well.

My thinking is that if we can achieve as much compatibility between the Pa1x, Pa800 and Pa2x as possible then this will encourage a more productive development of styles and enhanced Midi files (with Korg sounds as opposed to GM) that are directly compatible for playing on all variants of these instruments.

PS

It would obviously need someone with some clever PC-based sound editing software to be able to do this. Korg's Factory Data that is supplied in the Musical Resources v3 file would have to be modified. Also, since the Musical Resources files are Korg's intellectual property, we will need permission from Korg to make this modified musical database available to forum members.

Anyway, please let me know if you think that such a project would be feasible/ desirable/ helpful to Pa1x owners on the forum? If you have the necessary expertise to help with this, again please let me know?

Best regards,
Rob

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 6:29 am
by karmathanever
Hi Rob

Re Question 1
I started to do this a while ago and also with styles (I think this might have been part of the intention of the guys who created the controversial "Performance Pack". I found that I ran out of SSD space and still ended up with "empty"s all over the place. It would be really nice to get all the ballads together and rock together etc... I gave up on this one - it also caused my PA1XPro to do some peculiar things (full ssd) - the keyboard would suddenly change touch screen for no apparent reason - it was like the keyboard suddenly went into an extremely poor performance phase (very slow to respond and process internally) - it worried me at the time so I restored my original Resources and have only made small modification since.

Not too sure about question 2 - I guess a Korg tech might be the best resource for providing PA1 and PA2 internal structure questions.

Cheers

Pete :D

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:09 am
by Rob Sherratt
Hi Pete,

How did you do this, what software did you use, and have you any code available?

I'm aware of the risk of running out of SSD. I plan to sacrifice my USER2 memory locations to avoid this.

I would not want to tackle this unless I have a data dictionary mapping out the structure of Musical Resources 3. Do you have such a thing?

Best regards,
Rob

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 9:04 am
by wittid
Rob,

you only have to uncheck write protection of internal styles and sound - then you can overwrite any place you want (but if you load an other BKP it´ll be there all again !!!!).

I think there are only 2 ways to get a little more space in the SSD.
Delete the demo midifiles and delete the help languages you don´t need.

These 2 point are about 2,5MB free space.

cu
Detlef :wink:

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 10:39 am
by karmathanever
Hi Rob
I did as Detlef said - unchecked the "factory" lock and just loaded styles wherever I wanted them throughout the internal structure. Currently I have loaded and saved a lot of the PA800 styles into internal banks that I do not use (e.g. "Traditional"). When finished, I create a new Resources folder and backup (BKP), so, if I ever have to reload the OS etc, I can load my own personal resources and all will come back..

Hope this helps

Cheers

Pete :D