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Drum/Style Patterns.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:23 am
by cjp_24
Hi all. Had my Extreme for a day now really and sat for hours last night trying to figure it all out. :P

Having coming from a Yamaha HX3 with only a basic drum kit of 66 instruments, im finding the Extreme a lil bit daunting in that area. The Arpegiators are really good and sounds really 80's and I think that is good for a lot of music but I am finding them a little bit, whats the word .. too much. The style preloaded are kind of DANCE and TRACE music and thats not what I really need. My main style that I am looking for is Reggae and Ballad type music which brings me to the question.

I have Fruit loops and I have my KORG midi'd through USB. Can I create a drum pattern/style, save it as a MIDI and then expect my KORG to play back that pattern, maybe though the Arpegiators too?

Also, another off the cuff question. Does KORG play standard MIDI files. I have a few standard piano midi files that I saved from my PC to the CF card. I then went into the MEDIA options and loaded the MIDI file, but when I went to the seq. to play the file, it was not there to play. ??!! any idea's on this one too.

Thanks
Cliff

Re: Drum/Style Patterns.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:37 am
by KrzysiekK
loaded the MIDI file, but when I went to the seq. to play the file, it was not there to play.
MIDI files are available for playback in Sequence Play mode, not Sequence mode. Put MIDI files in main directory of media.

Best regards,
Krzysiek

Re: Drum/Style Patterns.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:57 am
by tritex4
cjp_24 wrote:
Does KORG play standard MIDI files. I have a few standard piano midi files that I saved from my PC to the CF card. I then went into the MEDIA options and loaded the MIDI file, but when I went to the seq. to play the file, it was not there to play. ??!! any idea's on this one too.

Thanks
Cliff
Yes, you can load SMF into the sequencer for playback.
On the sequencer page, you probably won't see a title, meaning that the song was loaded.
Press Sequencer START.

Re: Drum/Style Patterns.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:20 am
by cjp_24
tritex4 wrote:
cjp_24 wrote:
Does KORG play standard MIDI files. I have a few standard piano midi files that I saved from my PC to the CF card. I then went into the MEDIA options and loaded the MIDI file, but when I went to the seq. to play the file, it was not there to play. ??!! any idea's on this one too.

Thanks
Cliff
Yes, you can load SMF into the sequencer for playback.
On the sequencer page, you probably won't see a title, meaning that the song was loaded.
Press Sequencer START.
Yes, but it is not an SMF file but a .MID file. ?? or do you have to convert .MID to .SMF?

Re: Drum/Style Patterns.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:35 am
by cjp_24
KrzysiekK wrote:
loaded the MIDI file, but when I went to the seq. to play the file, it was not there to play.
MIDI files are available for playback in Sequence Play mode, not Sequence mode. Put MIDI files in main directory of media.

Best regards,
Krzysiek
I did have it SQ.Mode but I had the MIDI file in a subdirectory not the main directory. Is this why? I will test tonight. Why does it have to be in the main dir? do you know.

thanks
Cliff

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:50 am
by tritex4
The file has the correct extension (.mid), but doesn't seem to be a standard MIDI file.
It has to be saved in it's original form as a standard midi file (.mid), or converted.
Don't convert it to the .smf extension, as Korg machines won't recognize it.
Midi files that use the .smf extension can be opened by QuickTime, but not many others.

In the Song Play Mode, standard midi files can be played from any path, of any media (CF card, hard drive, pen drive, etc).
Use MENU, Select Directory to find the path of the files, and exit.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:22 pm
by pagey
cjp_24
Have you tried the "Load song template" in sequencer mode?

Here you can load reggae type accompaniments.

Go to sequencer mode
press the drop down arrow in the top right hand coner and select "load template song" then select a style from reggae,pop, rock etc

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 10:28 pm
by Head_SLAMMER
Cliff,

if you are finding the appregos to be "to much" just try useing the simple up,down,random ext apregos those are simple and perfect for use with chords. You can also select how many octaves you want to sound off. I hope this replie also helps.

You can trigger beats you make with fruity loops, you will have to import them via midi and then set them up as RPPR pattern files. This is a huge pain in the ass becasue you will have to take out some midi events that become integrated in the midi data. Mainly what I am talking about there is that your midi file with have a program change. let me know if you have more questions about that.

I use the extream with Synapse Audio Orion, very similar to fruity loops. Anyways you may find some huge technical difficultys to deal with in the future when Trying to record your triton and mix it in with what you have on fruity loops. Mainly its a huge pain in the ass when your trying to mix everything down to a single wave file. If your going to do it right you have to record each track seperately. It helps to have that SPDIF. Good luck!!

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 1:15 pm
by cjp_24
Head_SLAMMER wrote:Cliff,

if you are finding the appregos to be "to much" just try useing the simple up,down,random ext apregos those are simple and perfect for use with chords. You can also select how many octaves you want to sound off. I hope this replie also helps.

You can trigger beats you make with fruity loops, you will have to import them via midi and then set them up as RPPR pattern files. This is a huge pain in the ass becasue you will have to take out some midi events that become integrated in the midi data. Mainly what I am talking about there is that your midi file with have a program change. let me know if you have more questions about that.

I use the extream with Synapse Audio Orion, very similar to fruity loops. Anyways you may find some huge technical difficultys to deal with in the future when Trying to record your triton and mix it in with what you have on fruity loops. Mainly its a huge pain in the ass when your trying to mix everything down to a single wave file. If your going to do it right you have to record each track seperately. It helps to have that SPDIF. Good luck!!
Ok, say for example I create a very simple drum pattern with FL, for example 2 drum instruments a BASS drum and a SNARE drum, how does the Triton know what Kit and instrument to play when the midi data gets to it? Did I explain that correctly.

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:54 pm
by Head_SLAMMER
Well thats the thing the triton dosent, thays why if you want to trigger it useing the RPPR feature on your triton, you have to convert whatever beat you make in FL to MIDI then take the MIDI file into the tritons seq from there you can turn that seq on your triton in to an RPPR feature its a rather tedious process. I would say if you want to control loops to jam along with, Albeton Live is the way to go. Other wise just use FL's seq function lay down a drum beat and jam along with that on your triton.
I use orion to make drum beats then I lay them down in song mode and jam along with the drum beats. To me thats the best way to make a song. If you want to mix loops though Albeton Live is the way to go because you can program it so that you can use your triton to trigger the loops not just that a single not can play a multiple of notes which is a better option to use than the triton RPPR function. The RPPR function is still good, but I recomend just useing the Tritons Step seq to program drum beats it similar to FL less graphic of course. The thing the triton dose well in regards to triggering loops is that you can mix two drum beats togeather and get some killer results!!! I hope this helps.

Peace
Joe