hi and a couple of questions

binzi · Post by **binzi** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 10:24 pm

hello, im new to posting here, ive been browsing a while now but unable to sign up because of some technical problem
anyway i have a couple of questions regarding my new 'tribes

right quick low-down so you understand where im coming from with the questions regarding how im wiring the kit up
i play (amateur) synth both in a band, creating music for Garage MC's and i do solo, techno-type stuff.
ive got a pretty large rig;
a microKORG
a Kaoss 2 (that im thinking of upgrading when i get the spare cash if that will make a paddifference)
an EMX-1
an ESX-1
a fairly basic yamaha keyboard
a powered mixer with some kind of effect processors (i am about to purchase from a friend)

yeah so with that in mind heres a ton of questions relating to three topics

firstly, what would people reccomend is the best way to wire the rig together i have been perviously reccomended:

Set your ESX, seeing as it's mainly drums and samples, to be the master.
Run the MIDI out into the MIDI in of your EMX, but make sure they're on different channels.
Set the EMX to be a slave to the ESX, and run the audio line of your ESX into the mixer.
Next, run your EMX midi out into the Midi In on the MK and the audio out of the MK into the EMX. This will use the MK's oscillators to generate the sound the EMX actually plays* (pretty much the same as playing it for you) but they need to be on the same channel. Then, run this line out through the KP setup, then run that line to the mixer. And voila. Add crazy synth effects manually, while your setup fiddles its own toys.

*what?

and im thinking along these lines but id like to hear any alternatives

secondly a real question
ell me if im going wrong here but i can make my EMX play my mK for me on one synth part AND still use the rest of the EMX as usual, running it into the mixer.
so, if i silence the synth part thats mastering my mK or send all the other synth and drum parts out through the selective output i wont hear the synth part thats playing my mk from the EMX, just when it comes through the MK. but i wll hear what ever else my EMX is playing...
i had done it it before, but i could hear the EMX's synth part and the mK at the same time. sure i could easily do it though using the above method

and finally a hard one
how about wiring my mK audio out back into one of my tribes, most likely my EMX, and lighting up "audio in thru" so that i could get the benefit of those awesome tubes warming my mK up a little?
can also use the 'tribes synthesis engine to play about with the sound some more should i wish to

it definitely works but will if be more likely to reduce sound quality by putting more audio load on my tubes and the EMXs processing power or simply by combing the R/L into one lug? (note: my speakers and all the wiring between them and my synths are in 2 seperate channels and dont combine)

and, if its a decent plan, what do the experts reckon is best to whack my mK into. ie which audio in am i less likely to use live?

finally, if i do that is it going to be best to put my Kaoss between the mK and the 'tribe or after the 'tribe ? if its going after the tribe is their going to be a way (selective audio out?) to have the KP only affecting the after-tube sound of the mK?
though i am thinking it would be better between the two anyway

im probarbly going for a bassier sound in general by the way. or am i just best leaving the tubes out of this for better pitch versatility?

also, is it possible to use the EMX to call in a pitch bend on my mK, im thinking not

thanks in advance for the help guys, i guess ill warn you now, i make some long posts.

binzi · Post by **binzi** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:46 am

also can some one link me to a good cheap spares supplier, i need a new power pack for my EMX, cheers.

binzi · Post by **binzi** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:18 pm

bump for greater justice

Mvp82 · Post by **Mvp82** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:58 pm

off topic question

what kind of band do you play for?

I have a Roland SH-201 Synth
A Emx-1
KP-2
and a mixer (without fx)

I'm sort of thinkin about getting an ESX to play around with. Do you use it often?

jacques · Post by **jacques** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:40 pm

Hi binzi- as far as other suggestions go, I can tell you how I use my setup much of the time.

I also have the EMX/ESX/MK combo, and I often find myself wanting a keyboard to program the MX, so I connect the MK to it via midi.

The MK's arpeggiator is a totally different experience from the tribes' ribbons. I highly recommend learning how to use it to program notes and patterns, the results are definitely unique. I accounted my dealings with the quirks:

http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... hp?t=30201

I don't use the audio out on my MK much except to record samples into my SX. I absolutely *love* the sound it puts out but I'm trying to focus on mastering the tribes. If you put the MK's audio out on the SX, you can use the effects/tubes there too.

As far as your KP goes... I'd say get a mixer with FX send/return so you can decide what to put through it. I don't have a KP nor do I have a lot of experience with such mixers, but it seems like the best way to do it.

binzi · Post by **binzi** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:38 pm

Mvp82 wrote:off topic question

what kind of band do you play for?

I have a Roland SH-201 Synth
A Emx-1
KP-2
and a mixer (without fx)

I'm sort of thinkin about getting an ESX to play around with. Do you use it often?

if i had to id say we were techno and heavy on the bass, but we're a kind of experimental mix incorporating elements of drum n bass, jungle, garage, hip-hop, metal, psytrance and electronica. we also incorporate a lot of rave sounds and plain wierd stuff from home recordings.

that said weve only been together a few months, with the bassit and drummer in a metal band together previously
apart from that i can say i am starting to use the SX more and more especially for drum sampling and the "weird stuff"

also, nice setup,that sort of rigs quite popular in east london at the moment;]
and i love the SH-101. how does the 201 compare?

jacques wrote:Hi binzi- as far as other suggestions go, I can tell you how I use my setup much of the time.

I also have the EMX/ESX/MK combo, and I often find myself wanting a keyboard to program the MX, so I connect the MK to it via midi.

The MK's arpeggiator is a totally different experience from the tribes' ribbons. I highly recommend learning how to use it to program notes and patterns, the results are definitely unique. I accounted my dealings with the quirks:

http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... hp?t=30201

I don't use the audio out on my MK much except to record samples into my SX. I absolutely *love* the sound it puts out but I'm trying to focus on mastering the tribes. If you put the MK's audio out on the SX, you can use the effects/tubes there too.

As far as your KP goes... I'd say get a mixer with FX send/return so you can decide what to put through it. I don't have a KP nor do I have a lot of experience with such mixers, but it seems like the best way to do it.

excellent, great to find some one with the tribes/mk combo.
ill check out the thread now, and itd be great to hear some of the arpegiation you mentioned if you have any recordings.

as for the mk with tubes ive started doing just that recently, though im woried i might be putting to much of a workload on the tubes and may degrade both outputs. seeing as i know next to nothing of how they function id be pleased if some one could put my mind at rest.

apart from that i bought an alesis multimix 12fxd from a friend 2 days ago (which ive found it to be perfect for my needs a great amount of sound controll and very easy to use. practically mastered the features in two days and its my first mixer...) with 2 aux send/return channels for effects so thanks to those who have suggested that use, other wise i may have got one without and be screwed once i realised.