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I know a lot of real big time producers that swear by Reason. For example I a lot of tracks on the last multi-platinum 50 Cent album "Curtis" was done on Reason.

Does anyone think that Reason could actually be more powerful than the Oasys if used properly?

tyronediggs wrote:I know a lot of real big time producers that swear by Reason. For example I a lot of tracks on the last multi-platinum 50 Cent album "Curtis" was done on Reason.

Does anyone think that Reason could actually be more powerful than the Oasys if used properly?

Welcome back again! I notice that most of your posts seem to be along these same lines. See the previous replies for answers.

- Dan

danatkorg wrote:

tyronediggs wrote:I know a lot of real big time producers that swear by Reason. For example I a lot of tracks on the last multi-platinum 50 Cent album "Curtis" was done on Reason.

Does anyone think that Reason could actually be more powerful than the Oasys if used properly?

Welcome back again! I notice that most of your posts seem to be along these same lines. See the previous replies for answers.

- Dan

Hi,

No offense or anything, but I notice you always become very touchy whenever any form of software other than the Oasys is mentioned, almost like you are trying to brush something under the rug.

You do realize that once computers reach the 64-bit standard (with the potential for unlimited RAM) and 8-core chips - the big soft synths are going to rule the industry.

Thanks for stopping by. Yeah, the Oasys sucks and Reaon rules. Anything else we can help you with?

danatkorg wrote: Welcome back again! I notice that most of your posts seem to be along these same lines. See the previous replies for answers.
- Dan

tyronediggs wrote:No offense or anything, but I notice you always become very touchy whenever any form of software other than the Oasys is mentioned, almost like you are trying to brush something under the rug.

Hi! In what way did my response strike you as touchy?

Best regards,

Dan

I have Reason 4, lots of VSTis.
But I (and all experianced musicians) prefer the sound of my Triton Extreme.
Unless you're doing somekind of experimental, you might try softies

Hmmmmm...

Reason, Pro tols, Abelton Live, MPC-4000, Oasys, just to say a few,...all of them are wonderful intruments...

Piano, Guitar, Bass, Harmonica, Trumpet, just to say a few,...all of them are wonderful intruments as well...


A great musican/producer, from Oscar Peterson to Stevie Ray Vaughn, can create incredible pieces, songs, and riffs with there instrument. The particular instrument a musician/producer chooses to create with is entirely up to them...its that individuals choice in instrument that enables that musician/producer to speak his or her musical mind freely and progressivly.....NOW ...There is absolutly no way ANYONE can difinitively say a piano is better than a guitar or a guitar is better than a piano-to create music with...it just doesn't work that way.


Remember, it comes down to who's sitting behind the piano, not the piano itself. Don't get me wrong, a professionally crafted instrument can easily magnify or help carry a great musician/producer, but it doesn't make them.


I personally like to use the Oasys and Pro tools together, but thats me. I'm not about to say this combination is above all others...that would non-sense. Its your choice...personally I chose the oasys. Maybe you'll choose Reason...and maybe you'll find a way to be more creative on Reason than on the Oasys, but you won't know that until YOU try them both.


So, is Reason poossibly more powerful than the Oasys...

...Come on!!! A 4-track analog (Pre-Fostex) recorder and one microphone could be more powerful than the Oasys if used correctly...Just ask "The Beattles"...


-SFX-

Hrm. Very personal opinion here. I don't care how good softsynths will ever get, nothing beats feeling the instrument you're playing and while a synth/sampler isn't exactly that, for me it's one step closer than having a PC tone generator. Try to play Reason at a live gig, also. (I know you're probably debating the sampler part, but still). Have fun waiting while you dig through samples to load into NN-XT (Yeah, I've even used it before) while everyone else is ready to go!

It depends on what you mean by "more powerful" ?

If you're comparing synth to synth, then the Oasys in my opinion is far better, because Korg are writing better synthesis algorithms in the Oasys software than other software/hardware synth designers are right now ... AL-1 particularly. The Oasys is a soft synth running on it's own intel processor rather than the one in your PC/Mac. So the difference is purely down to the software, and more importantly the coders and the algorithms they have devised. They are ahead of the game in my opinion, especially with regards to the things I am interested in.

So to me the Oasys is more powerful, a lot more powerful, but that's my definition.

Daz.

p.s. Dan in my experience doesn't "brush under the rug", he's been very objective in conversations here. That's made a little easier by the fact that he's product manager of a very strong product So please limit your comments to talking about the musical tools rather than commenting about other posters.

tyronediggs wrote:
Does anyone think that Reason could actually be more powerful than the Oasys if used properly?

I do


Does anyone want to swap an Oasys 76 for a copy of Reason 4(I'll even throw in a stand with it)


Hurry up please with your Offers I want to be hitting the Bigtime by the end of the week and struck a record deal..

tyronediggs wrote:Does anyone think that Reason could actually be more powerful than the Oasys if used properly?

Tyrone,

Looking back at your posts, ALL of them seem to present the same generic opinion, that keyboards with sounds are outdated compared with computers and music software. What is the purpose of presenting that opinion over and over again simply using different examples?

I also question the accuracy of some of your claims.

CLAIM # 1
On August 21st, 2007 (SIX MONTHS AGO), you wrote:

tyronediggs wrote: East West Quantum Leap Pianos - Now a lot of people have been saying the "tiny" Kurzweil have good sounds, but wait until you hear this 250GB monster roar, the only thing that surpasses this is a real Bosendorfer.

Your statement implies you heard the QL pianos last August, but:
-- they were only debuted at Winter NAMM, 2008 (one month ago)
-- the first demos were uploaded two days ago (Feb 22nd, 2008)

So unless you work for EastWest, can you please explain HOW you were able to determine that "the only thing that surpasses this is a real Bosendorfer" SIX months BEFORE anyone else?

CLAIM # 2
I also question this statement of yours:

tyronediggs wrote: Yeah whatever, you can say all you want about hip-hop being just loops, beats and samples etc...but I make like $10-15k for every 30 minutes it takes to make one of those "beat and funny things," (plus publishing proceeds and royalties)

If you make $10,000 - $15,000 for 30 minutes of your work (not counting "publishing proceeds and royalties"), why the heck are you posting here?

Unfortunately, these two statements above make me question the credibility of ALL of your comments.

MartinHines wrote:

tyronediggs wrote:Does anyone think that Reason could actually be more powerful than the Oasys if used properly?

Tyrone,

Looking back at your posts, ALL of them seem to present the same generic opinion, that keyboards with sounds are outdated compared with computers and music software.

What is the purpose of presenting that opinion over and over again simply using different examples?

I do question the accuracy of some of your claims however. On August 21st, 2007 (SIX MONTHS AGO), you wrote:

tyronediggs wrote: East West Quantum Leap Pianos - Now a lot of people have been saying the "tiny" Kurzweil have good sounds, but wait until you hear this 250GB monster roar, the only thing that surpasses this is a real Bosendorfer.

Your statement implies you heard the QL pianos last August, but:
-- they were only debuted at Winter NAMM, 2008 (one month ago)
-- the first demos were uploaded two days ago (Feb 22nd, 2008)

So unless you work for EastWest, can you please explain HOW you were able to determine that "the only thing that surpasses this is a real Bosendorfer" SIX months BEFORE anyone else?

That was a typo. It was the Eastwest Bosendorfer 290.

By the way, the amount of money I make really isn't relevant to this thread - which is about Reason 4 vs Oasys.

Don't misquote me, of course I don't make 15k every 30 minutes (360k per day!), I was simply saying I have made a beat in 30 minutes - which I sold for 15k.

Damn is this CSI or something!!!

tyronediggs wrote: That was a typo. It was the Eastwest Bosendorfer 290.

Typo? That's the best you can do?

Here is a typo: "Quntum Leap Pianos are great"

Sorry, but talking about "Quantum Leap Pianos" in the same paragraph where you mentioned "Quantum Leap Fab Four" (both new EastWest products) is NOT a "typo". I simply caught you in an outright lie.

tyronediggs wrote: By the way, the amount of money I make really isn't relevant to this thread - which is about Reason 4 vs Oasys.

Sure it does. If you REALLY can make $30,000 an HOUR, then we are talking to a musical genius!! There are very few people who can make $30,000 an hour for their work, and none of them ever post in a lowly forum like this.

Given your extremely high earning rate you have "blown" at least $10,000 just typing in a response!!! Sorry, but I don't buy what you are sellin'.

tyronediggs wrote:
Don't misquote me, of course I don't make 15k every 30 minutes (360k per day!), I was simply saying I have made a beat in 30 minutes - which I sold for 15k.

I didn't "misquote" you, I "quoted" you with a DIRECT QUOTE. You stated "but I make like $10-$15 for EVERY 30 minutes it takes to make one of those".

The word "EVERY" means "EVERY", not "ONE TIME".

I have now caught you lying twice. I would suggest you stop while you are behind.

MartinHines wrote:

tyronediggs wrote: That was a typo. It was the Eastwest Bosendorfer 290.

Typo? That's the best you can do?

Here is a typo: "Quntum Leap Pianos are great"

Sorry, but talking about "Quantum Leap Pianos" in the same paragraph where you mentioned "Quantum Leap Fab Four" (both new EastWest products) is NOT a "typo". I simply caught you in an outright lie.

tyronediggs wrote: By the way, the amount of money I make really isn't relevant to this thread - which is about Reason 4 vs Oasys.

Sure it does. If you REALLY can make $30,000 an HOUR, then we are talking to a musical genius!! There are very few people who can make $30,000 an hour for their work, and none of them ever post in a lowly forum like this.

Given your extremely high earning rate you have "blown" at least $10,000 just typing in a response!!! Sorry, but I don't buy what you are sellin'.

Look, its not like I sell beats every day. What do you want me to do, send you a photocopy of the check and my bank statements:D

Martin,

You seem should work for the "Hillary" campaign team, you seem to have a talent for digging up old information and using it against people.

Maybe they will pay even more than $30,000 per hour for your services.