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please....try this on zero8

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:35 am
by jayray
not sure about the revolution.......but
hope to get some response/support.....from the peoples
getting "no final answer" from korg canada/usa, 3 months after proof of issue on their unit, over the phone......
is this part of the design and needs to be worked around?
please try this on your unit, is it all of them?
or just the three i have had contact with
(old and new serial #'s in all updates)
this is easy to try...........please.......

--set any channel to blue (midi/audi+midi)
--have audio running through it (via software)
--adjust any/all ext1, 2, fx send knobs (blue)
to a desired volume setting (midway/center position)
--monitor(listen to) any/all ext1, 2, fx send output
.....can do this via:
-firewire(ext1,2),
-rear output jacks(ext1, 2)
-or cue/return volume in the monitor section (for the zero fx only)
.....for now you may hear nothing.......but.....
--set any other channel to orange (audio/hardware input)
--turn any/all ext1, 2, fx send knobs (orange)
--this will "trigger" or "activate" sound (from the blue firewire input) to
leak through any/all respective ext1, 2, fx send outputs
--or wait approx 15-20 seconds and sound (from the firewire input) will
"activate/trigger" on its own
--try changing the volume on any/all of the blue ext1, 2, fx send knobs
and re-triggering/activating with the respective orange knobs
and notice the change in volume via the respective outputs ..........fun......but not really


all manuals (hardcopy and zero edit) say nothing about any operation
of these three knobs (ext1,2,fx send)in blue (midi mode) other than controlling midi signals..........


possible conclusion:
there is a audio/volume/trigger relation between the three
knobs.....ext1, 2, fx send in the two different modes.....blue and
orange (audio and midi) this relation occurs with or without actual
sound, could be an analogue and/or digital relation


this means:
in ORANGE color, of any channel in any audio(hardware input) setting (including firewire "audio")i can not use ext1, 2, fx sent outputs/knobs at all when any channel has midi/midi+audio selected and audio playing through it
or.....
i cannot use any channel for midi/midi+audio (BLUE)when using ext1, 2, fx send outputs/knobs
in regards to the usability of the equipment this is debilitating........
truly a midi controller OR an analogue mixer.......not both at once


the issue described:
midi/audi+midi selection on all channels leaks (firewire)audio
to ext1,2 and fx sends outputs (firewire and hardware outputs)
volume of leak is set by that channels BLUE colored ext1, 2, fx send
knobs(midi control works fine)
but change (on/off, volume)of leak is "activated" or "triggered" by the movement of the respective ext1,2, fx send knobs


is it just me.........?

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:41 am
by ivanek
no! you're not alone!
i saw that when i prepared my setup...
i have some channels in audio, and some in full midi control. I use the both fx send in soundcard mode, to use the ableton fx...
and i saw what you mean!!
my english is too poor to post this problem here, so well done!
and my conclusion was: don't use the fx send knobs in midi mode, korg has done an other mistake!!!

AND...
i played last saturday, a real nightmare with the zero8!!!!!
hot level is not a solution, 4 JBL preamplified monitor, 25% is a maximum level if i use the zero8 to 75%... AND THE PHONE LEVEL IS STILL TOO LOW!!
the first DJ mixed only with two turntables, for maybe 3 hours. After that i started my set, for 15 minutes, the zero8 crashed, no control, same for computer....
THANK YOU MIGHTY KORG, NO REALLY, IT COME FROM MY HEART, I REALLY THANK YOU TO DO NOTHING FOR YOUR f*ck*ng ZERO8 CUSTOMER!!!!

after the restart a channel didn't work at all. I mixed with only 2 channels, no midi control, and my f*ck*ng mouse...it wasn't so bad, people really enjoyed, but it wasn't the same for me...

In next few days, i will test at home AGAIN AND AGAIN if there is a solution to use the zero8 in a real set for 3 or 4 hours without problems... if it's not possible, i will sell it and buy the new Xone 4D,it should be a better product, and i'm sure their support will be better.