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B3 with lesley switching speeds on MIDI playback

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 10:23 am
by mercergate
Here's one I've been wrestling with for a few hours. I record a Organ track. I have rotary assigned to an effect. When I play it and toggle the joystick while recording the lesley slows down and speeds up like it's supposed to. However, when I play the track back the lesley doesn't switch speed. Very boring! What am I doing wrong? I've tried every source for the speed switch and recorded many different controllers. nothing seems to work. Anybody? I'm using Sonar 6. (My Triton pro does switch the lesley on playback, and it's a much better lesley effect).

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 1:16 pm
by Rob Sherratt
Hi Mercergate,

I suspect that your MIDI configuration needs modifying somewhere and the joystick (and probably other) controller information is being filtered out. This can happen on the Pa keyboard or in Sonar. You will have to check everything carefully.

As a test and to prove the point, just record a single track in Sequencer mode on the Pa keyboard, save the file on the Pa keyboard, and then play it back in Song play mode. The rotary organ effect will work just fine.

To test whether Sonar is capturing the joystick event, you could save the MIDI file in Sonar, copy it to a pen drive, and then load it via pen drive onto the Pa keyboard and play it back. If the rotary organ sound is OK then you know the filtering is happening on the output side of Sonar or input side of the Pa keyboard.

If the roatary organ sound from the "Sonar" MIDI file can not be heard, then the filtering is happening on the output side of the Pa keyboard or the input side of Sonar.

The probelm you are describing is not a "bug" as far as I know, but is just a configuration problem that has to be worked through.

Best regards,
Rob

lesley on organ

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 12:25 am
by mercergate
Maybe I'm just dumb but, I've been playing keyboards since the mini moog. I own 7 synths right now. This pa2x is the most over convoluted operating system I have ever encountered! I tried to do what you said. Record a simple 6 bars on organ with the rotary effect changing speeds. Now I play it back on the keyboard song play mode and the sound on player 1 keeps switching from a organ to a "sweet harmonica", (with the lesley working however). The sends have to constantly be reset or they keep going back to 0. You were definitely right when you wrote in a previous subject the style, performance, and sts separation should be united. It's so confusing with all the different saves one must do do preserve where you are at the moment.
When I try to just record a simple track in sonar in the "sound" mode there's no guarantee it's going to play back the same sound or FX. I'm trying to do all this with a client looking over my shoulder waiting for his project to be done. The keyboard has many pluses. Great sounds, great styles. awesome drum tracks and fills, but the interface leaves a lot to be desired. Or maybe I'm just really dumb. I've been on this now for 20 hours straight. The triton was so much more direct.