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will korg make a set for eastern musicians

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 5:34 am
by nabil_kh2
hey

i waass just wandering
if korg will ever make a set for eastern musicianns, like a set
with something for everyone in it for afghans, inidans, arabic, turkish, persian, etc.

i reckon that that korg has a bigg market with eastern musicains and creating this set would boost there sales greatly.

I know there are alot of third partty organisations that have done this, but still it would be good if korg itself made one.

Is there any way that we can convince korg to do this.
Any suggestionss???
I really hope this happens.

bye

Re: will korg make a set for eastern music

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 5:36 am
by BasariStudios
nabil_kh2 wrote:i reckon that that korg has a bigg market with eastern musicains and creating this set would boost there sales greatly.
Thats where their Arranger market is, compared to the West is maybe 10/1 ratio.

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 6:52 am
by umanid
Hi,

Great thought and idea :)

I second the idea and would request Korg to give a serious thought to it. And Nedim put it very rightly that there is a bigger market of Korg for eastern and oriental users.

Hope to have Korg's support on this.

Regards,

Umair

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 2:51 pm
by Vangelismusic
Yea! look at how many PSR-OR 1000 or PSR-or700 yamaha sold, they sold alot compared to other models! and the styles were made very well.

:D

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 12:03 am
by mrkorg
There are many sets available which you can find on the net for both western and eastern music. I'm a western player. Youhave to remember that the PA line are not oriental keyboards with the exception of the pa80 (i think) neither are the workstations. The fact that many easterners use these keyboards doesn't make them eastern. Korg tries to strike a happy middle between the two sides of music.

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 8:44 am
by umanid
Hi Mrkorg,

The discussion is not about naming the keyboard/arranger itself an oriental board, its about the contents/ingredients of the board that differentiates. No one calls the Pa series as western or eastern boards, its just the sounds and styles that makes it so in the views of the users and as per their utility. Nevertheless, the boards are exceptionally good with the amount of offering that they possess. However, you may not find a single user who likes each and every sound or style on these boards. Everyone has his/her style of playing and a liking for a specific genre. The reason why the factory resources cover everything is the mere fact that the choices and likings differ from user to user and culture to culture.

Regards,

Umair

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:00 am
by mrkorg
Hi Umaind,

If you want Korg or any keyboard company to dedicate eastern styles and sounds to a particular keyboard you have to buy an oriental keyboard which is designed for oriental/eastern music. These keyboards are specificaly eastern. That's why Korg won't release any eastern sounds/styles unless it is a dedicated orietnal keyboard.

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 11:25 am
by macboy
This is totally NOT necessary. Korg has good contacts with Korg Turkey and there is a Korg PA500TR and was a PA50TR. A Turkish version with everything you need.

Also EMU is making great USB with Turkish SET.

So of course Korg will totally NOT be interested to make time and effort in things that already exist.

This would be a bad business model: inventing something that has already been invented !

Just my 2 cents

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 12:44 pm
by umanid
Hi Macboy,

Agreed that Korg will not be working on this idea as it would result in duplication. But then how about making all that data available for Pa800 users that is already on the Pa500TR? A set containing all the oriental stuff on Pa500TR to be available for Pa800 :)

Any comments?

Regards,

Umair

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 12:47 pm
by Sarwat8200
Umair is not convincing here for only Turkish music. He is pointing towards whole eastern music specially Bollywood music (Indian Music) which comes always first in east. KORG must provide Bollywood song styles, sounds and drumkits besides other regional music.It's just personal opinion from east If KORG can put this offer in next OS pipeline.

Thanks & Regards

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:16 am
by platinumuser
umanid wrote:Hi Macboy,

Agreed that Korg will not be working on this idea as it would result in duplication. But then how about making all that data available for Pa800 users that is already on the Pa500TR? A set containing all the oriental stuff on Pa500TR to be available for Pa800 :)

Any comments?

Regards,

Umair
I can't follow this forum daily so that i may reply your message/or not ,i heard it Turkey,it is possible,i may give you web adress if you send me a private message but website is Turkish :),if you have any friends in Turkey,you may use it.

Best Regards
Faruk

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 8:52 pm
by amiri
I agree with Sarwat 100% Korg should pay attention in eastern market as well. Bollywood Indian styles and instruments also used in Pakistani and Afghani music. all Indian Pakistani and Afghan musicians do use arranger keyboards. As Nedim mentioned, that is why Yamaha has a very strong market in those countries.

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 1:57 am
by ghawwar
The Pa800 is Great keybourd we lose from the 64 mb big place becouse we put the arabic kits inside it with the pcm samples for these kits
so if they make memory 128 mb for the pa800 it will slove the problem
becouse we will fined place for sounds better )
i know there is pa2x but it have no Speakers
i hope from korg company to make memory for the pa800 128 mb or more
so we can feel that its Realy 64mb ,, becouse after we put our arabic styles & sample arabic kits for them .. the memory become not enough for adding all voices that we wish to add .
its enogh if the OS 2.01 was including arabic kits and pcm's inside
thanks ... i LOVE korg :) company & i have music shop
thanks

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 2:19 am
by nikola81
Not trying to be smart or anything but what is wrong with like two arabic, one turkish and oriental percussion kits in the pa800 and around 30 oriental instruments including zurna, kanoun, baglama, oud, klarnet...? Just wonder why Korg put them there if they can't be used in eastern music. Every country has individuals with enough knowledge to make styles for music of that country. Why would Korg give money to programmers to make those styles. I know that the eastern market for styles is huge, those styles are used even in my country but that's the reason more that there has to be a lot of third party styles to be found.

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 2:35 am
by emir82
I must agree with Nikola here, and with no disrespect or anything or anybody. Korg cannot cater for everyone, especially in one single arranger, Which may be the pa800/pa2x, or any other arranger for that matter. Arabic/turkish and any other middle-eastern countries have a huge following. I mean just take youtube for example. If you type in pa2x or pa800, i search over there, 99% of results will come back as some form of a middle eastern style music. And some of it sounds awesome, the sounds the styles. And these soudns and styles are not featured in korgs arrangers as a factory thing. Which means somebody out there had to sample, or make them. So as Nikola said there are many very skilled people out there who can make this stuff come to life. Music i play is mostly serbian, bosnian, macedonian, etc... Most popular styles we use are the rhumba style beats, 7/8, 9/8, Begin, etc. And none of these are featured in any of the korgs factory specs. ANd not even the sounds. Maybe some accordions are ok. But they sounds like absolute toys, compared to what we need. And i do have LOTS of them. So somebody out there actually had to make these styles and sample the sounds, and it wasnt Korg trust me :)