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Assignable Sliders

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 4:52 pm
by ZDK
Hi Everybody,

is it possible to assign Volume/Expression unique to the two assignable sliders?
let say one for the upper and one for the lower.

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:00 am
by karmathanever
Hi ZDK

Please see page 301 in the User Manual for a complete list of assignments in the two slider modes

Cheers

Pete :D

Thanks i read the manual

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 2:11 pm
by ZDK
My Question is, let say i choose kb expression for both sliders,
how can i seperate one for the upper sound and one for the lower sound.


Thanks

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 2:17 pm
by ZDK
Sorry,

i forgot to mention its the PA800 with only 2 Assignable sliders.


Thanks

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:11 pm
by karmathanever
Hi again - sorry I may have confused you as I quoted pages from the older 1.6 manual

The slider assignments are on page 315 of the OS2.0 version of the User Guide - this lists all the assignments available to you.

I you want extra volume controls you may wish to consider the Behringer FCB1010 MIDI pedal unit - it is excellent and has 2 completely configurable expression pedals on it - there is a great PC software editor (FREE) to program the pedal...

See...http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/fcb1010.aspx

I use mine for volume of UPPER 1 & 2 as well as many other things...

Hope this helps..

Pete :D

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:59 am
by admar
karmathanever wrote:... there is a great PC software editor (FREE) to program the pedal...
Hi Pete, I just purchased the FCB1010. Could you give me a link to the software editor please?
Regards, Admar

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:38 pm
by Rob Sherratt
admar wrote:Hi Pete, I just purchased the FCB1010. Could you give me a link to the software editor please?
Hi Admar,

It was written by a generous developer called Mike Riley and he made the editor available to everyone free of charge here:

http://www.ripwerx.com/

Because it's in Java it runs as an extension to your web browser, and it will work on both a PC and one of those "legacy raincoat computers", so long as Java run time is installed. Oh ... Pete does like to live dangerously ... like Isaac Newton ... when Apple knocked him on the head :lol:

Best regards,
Pete (alias Rob)

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:42 pm
by karmathanever
Hi Admar

This is the PC editor for the FCB1010 that I use..
http://www.mtnsys.com/faq-fcb/PCEditorBeta.htm

(Haven't tried the one Rob mentioned - must have a look at it...)

Cheers

Rob (alias Pete :wink: - actually don't know who I am any more... ) :D

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 4:57 pm
by Rob Sherratt
I just noticed that Mike Riley's latest software release has dropped support for the original Behringer firmware and you have to fit the aftermarket UNO software which is a fiddle to do since it involves swapping the EPROM, plus you have to order the UNO EPROM etc..

So the software Pete is using is better I think. Looks like I will switch to it as well, thanks Pete.

Best regards,
Rob

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:04 pm
by admar
Thank you kindly Rob, eeh Pete, eeh no .... Mr. Sheratt, ... or was it karmathanever...?

Downloaded the editor and it seems easy to work with.
If I'm wrong, I might come back to you.
If not, I will be back also.

Regards,
Admar

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:27 am
by macboy
Isn't it great that people take time and effort to program such programs to help users for free ?

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 12:07 pm
by Lee
Looking at doing this myself as well...looks like the Roland FC300 is also a nice option. Anyone know about it at all??

Thanks,
Lee

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:33 pm
by Rob Sherratt
Lee wrote:Looking at doing this myself as well...looks like the Roland FC300 is also a nice option. Anyone know about it at all??

Thanks,
Lee
Hi Lee,

The biggest drawback with the FCB1010 is that each button can only send MIDI Bank/program change or controller messages. There is no capability to program each button to send complex SysEx messages.

Now, that is not too much of a problem with the Pa2x because it doesn't make much use of SysEx messages via MIDI (if at all).

However I also have an M3 and I would have liked to program some M3 SysEx messages onto my FCB1010 for controlling filter parameters and EXB-RADIAS synth modulations for example. However I can't do it and I'm a bit disappointed about it. I'm having to program up RPPR sequences on the M3 containing the SysEx messages I need, then trigger to RPPR's from notes sent by the FCB1010. It's a painful way to do it.

What I like from the documentation I read about the Roland FC300 is that it has SysEx capability on the programmable buttons, and so it looks like it may be possible to program it for use with my M3.

The FCB1010 retails at $150 and the FC300 retails at $300. For M3 owners or for people with complex workstations with full SysEx capabilities, it may be worth paying double the price. For Pa2x owners I don't think you would see any benefit in the FC300 compared with the FCB1010.

Best regards,
Rob

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:43 pm
by jg::
Hey guys - can you also use the 1010 to select fills/variations and start/stop? In other words, for all the things that the EC-5 switches can do?

jg::

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 3:24 pm
by Rob Sherratt
jg:: wrote:Hey guys - can you also use the 1010 to select fills/variations and start/stop? In other words, for all the things that the EC-5 switches can do?

jg::
Absolutely, this can all be done on the FCB1010 since it does not require SysEx to be programmed.