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your favorite softsynth? moog modular v ?.....
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 6:52 am
by baldo
picked up moog modular v (MMV) last weekend.
it is by far the best engineered softsynth i have used & i love all of the NI products. haven't had the pleasure of trying the v station or ppg wave.
MMV has the warmest sound i've heard yet from a non hardware product. the reviews are accurate.
the software is intuitive yet daunting when you first try to use it. i can imagine how awesome it must be operating a real moog modular. in some ways, i'd rather have the soft version because of the expanded osc & the patch save feature.
the presets are very good. several have renditions of tomita's sound sets; tomita helped and advised in the creation of some of the presets.
all of the presets are written by major league sound smiths; Celmar ENGEL; Michel GEISS; Hideki MATSUTAKE; Katsunori UJIIE --pretty good group.
the quick start and manuals seem to be very helpful; so far. i hope i can say the same for arturia during the coming months.
this may be one of the best values i've acquired in quite awhile. i haven't touched a board or piano in 3 days.
thx for listening to my rambling enthusiasm...

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 8:39 am
by Daz
Absynth for me - I just love it !
Daz.
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 2:57 pm
by baldo
i agree that absynth has a great gui. it has really helped me have a better understanding of what happens to sound when you alter a wave.
absynth, fm7 & mmv all have a great gui. they are also so deep that i feel it is going to take me quite awhile to become comfortable with the process of creating sound in each of them.
i've found myself spending more & more time on the daw w/softsynths than i have on the hardware. i think that may have to do with the gui on the softsynths. a good gui is helpful when trying to grasp synthesis concepts.
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 4:07 pm
by LIFECHANGER
For a great softsynth DSP based "systems"...
http://creamware.com
Minimax/Modular II/ Pro I/ etc., etc., etc.
http://zarg.com
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2003 5:57 am
by laughing_bear
1. Absynth2
2. Moog modular
3. D'cota
4. Virsyn Cube
worst plugin ever ;o} ... Space syntheziser
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2003 8:00 pm
by Mastermalleus
I hesitate... So many different and good softsynths out there. And a lot of freeware too - don“t forget Crystal! I cast my vote on Reaktor 4 though, since it makes fabulous things happen...
Regards,
Richard
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 2:36 pm
by Emre Goren
1-Albino
2-Novation V-Station
3-JunoX2
4-DiscoDsp
These are my favorite...Sometimes I forget that I have a Triton Studio and an Access Indigo..

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 3:35 pm
by cnegrad
Where are the Spectrasonics Synths in this list? I would've voted for Atmosphere....
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 3:42 pm
by cnegrad
Ummm...this is going to sound incredibly stupid, but I can't figure out how to vote. I don't see anything in the Reply fields, or above. What am I missing?
Thanks.
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 4:27 pm
by Daz
I think the vote was only set to run for a limited time, and has now become read only.
D.
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 4:57 pm
by EJ2
Hi CNE,
I love the Spectrasonsics synth demos. Just incredible stuff. I read at KvR that the only drawback with these is the inabliltiy to craft your own designs from them and external bpm control. However, I suppose with Atmosphere, Stylus, and Trilogy, there are a ton of sounds to work with that a studio full of hardware synths wouldn't come close to their number and quality.
With the latest improvements with latency etc., this field of SWSynths is becoming very exciting.
Cheers,
Eric
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 5:27 pm
by cnegrad
Eric,
The syncing to BPM issue is slated to be fixed in an upcoming update. Yes, crafting your own sounds is somewhat limited compared to a traditional hardware synth, but you'd be surprised how much you can do with the parameters given, as well as the layering capacity.
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 6:57 pm
by EJ2
Hi cne,
I somewhat thought that Persing wouldn't let the sync issue go unattended. The demos on Spectrasonics website are incredibly good - some of the best I have heard. I like the bio and link that goes with each as well. I think you may be right about getting into other parameters to taylor to your tastes. Although when you look at the list of contributors designing, why mess with "expert" craftsmanship. And as I said in my previous post, there's a ton of sounds for your pallette, more than what a studio full of synths can provide.
Cheers,
Eric
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 7:17 pm
by cnegrad
Although when you look at the list of contributors designing, why mess with "expert" craftsmanship.
As I'm sure that you're aware, it all depends on the production that you're working on. I needed a cool moog-ish synth bass for a ballad that I was working on for our cd, and the one that came closest in Atmosphere was just way too fat. Also, the ADSR envelope was a problem as well. Clearly the sound was created with an uptempo tune in mind, or they would've come up with a more suitable envelope.
As it turned out, my edits consisted of the following:
1) Instead of a two-layer detuned sound, I shut one layer completely off.
2) Undoing the detuning to bring the remaining layer back to A440.
3) Fixing the envelope to suit long, sustained tones.
4) Just a little bit of filter to take the edge off.
All of this was doable within Atmosphere.
Have a good weekend!
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 10:40 pm
by LIFECHANGER
Creamware cards (Pulsar I and Luna II for me)...to many features to list along with unique GUI/ mixers,, synths, samplers, mixers and lots of fantastic third party stuff, like from John Bowen's Zarg.com and many other gifted programers...many for free...lots for a small sum of money....Variety is the spice of Life!!.
