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Let's all move to Germany
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 11:16 pm
by karmathanever
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 11:47 pm
by dwpayne
We do seem to be left out a bitover this side of the water
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:46 am
by BasariStudios
They should make a mistake instead of Austria to end up in Australia...
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:22 pm
by mrniceneasy
Even our side of the water
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:24 pm
by BasariStudios
mrniceneasy wrote:Even our side of the water
Thats small, they can even swim there...
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:43 pm
by mrniceneasy
BasariStudios wrote:mrniceneasy wrote:Even our side of the water
Thats small, they can even swim there...
Well, the 'Roman's' did come once and then left. Perhaps they say 'been there, done that!'
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:14 pm
by Peter Paul
Germany is huge, huge market for fake music instruments. It pays to do roadshow there. Up here, in the states, they frown at you when you play arranger kb. It is not considered very arty to play this instrument here. There are a lot and I say it again, a lot of very good musicians around here. If you play arranger and don't know how to play piano or something well, they don't take you seriously. And as you know very well, musicians are very serious about their business. Something tells me that us is not good selling ground for akb so why to bother going there, doing costly roadshow.
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:46 am
by karmathanever
Interesting post....
Germany is huge, huge market for fake music instruments.
What is a "fake" musical instrument? To me that would be a like PA2Xpro with no motherboard inside or a piano with no strings..
Up here, in the states, they frown at you when you play arranger kb. It is not considered very arty to play this instrument here.
...you mean a bit like people who use Adobe Photoshop instead of a real paintbrush
If you play arranger and don't know how to play piano or something well, they don't take you seriously.
Hmmm sounds very narrow-minded and one-sided - I would bet that there are many "pianists/violinists/flautists etc..." who could not begin to play an arranger keyboard.
That is a sad statement you make...
Something tells me that us is not good selling ground for akb so why to bother going there, doing costly roadshow.
The arranger keyboards from the little Casios to the Korg PAs enable many people to enter the great world of music. Arrangers are a huge huge seller - Yamaha, Roland etc put on "technical" roadshows where we can see all the great new gear. Seems like Korg in Germany do this. I am all for roadshows - the only downside is that I end up spending more money
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:43 am
by alland
This down looking attitude towards arrangers is however known in Europe too, at least in here where I live. I know many people who use arrangers with downloaded karaoke-midi files and perform on cheap parties and rural clubs. These just cannot afford get any live music band.
In these cases there are really some who know only select-start-stop buttons and only pretend on stage that they play. And of course it is true - quality of such music is poor.
This does not mean that arrangers are poor quality instruments in itself. As said all major kbd manufacturers worked hard to make serious and good instruments, Pa2 being one of the best. And this doe not mean that all arranger owners and players are poor musicians and have arranger just because they cannot articulate any live music.
But sure about German market - they seem to like instruments of this type. Just see how many German-type styles are built in many arrangers . BTW I am pretty OK with these German styles since our country has had a lot of German influence in history
Another big market for arrangers seems to be middle east. We have seen Turkish versions of arrangers (anybody seen Chinese or Brazilian or Irish versions ?
).
Update: since 11.11.2009 there are some more "Local" versions of Pa500
http://www.korgpa.com/pa_root/en/produc ... fo.html?en
Cheers and continue to love my Pa2 that seems to be best companion to my M3 (so I can also impress serious musicians
).
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:04 am
by BasariStudios
alland wrote:
Another big market for arrangers seems to be middle east. We have seen Turkish versions of arrangers
Actually that is the FIRST and most important market for Korg.
2008 Turkey itself was THE BIGGEST PA consumer in the world.
On YouTube, out of 10 PA users, 7-8 are Turkish players and music.
