Best way to do a harddrive backup?

dhjdhj · Post by **dhjdhj** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 8:21 pm

I've looked through previous threads but haven't really found a good answer.

I'd like to be able to backup the internal harddrive from time to time so that if I ever have to replace it, I can simply reimage a new hard drive and throw it back in. Is there a way to make an image of the internal drive without removing the drive and plugging it into a computer as that's not a practical method for regular backup?

Thanks,
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dhjdhj · Post by **dhjdhj** » Sun Mar 14, 2010 1:41 pm

I guess this is not possible....do I really have to physically remove the drive to back it up?

Kevin Nolan · Post by **Kevin Nolan** » Sun Mar 14, 2010 2:31 pm

dhjdhj wrote:I guess this is not possible....do I really have to physically remove the drive to back it up?

Well I have a 0.5 TB Hard Disk connected to my OASYS, and I regularly back up all data, 3rd party libraries etc onto it.

I have spent a lot of time organising my data into a tree-hierarchy, with top level folders with titles such as "soundlib" for my sound library and so on.

Then, backing up this folder is simply a matter of selecting it, going to the utility menu and choosing copy, then go to the external hard drive and chose the "paste" option which becomes available on the screen. Everything in my sound library under that folder name is copied to the external hard disk.

I save such back ups in date-labelled folders on the external HD for easy access in the future.

You only need to back up user data - songs, programs, 3rd party libraries (and then only is modified or customised for your usage). Everything else from the OS to factory sounds and settings are available form the OS CDs.

The key is to organise your data into a hierarchy of folders; and separate out "once-off installed user data" that never changes such as sound libs from regularly changing sound data such as songs.

Hope this helps.

Kevin.

dhjdhj · Post by **dhjdhj** » Sun Mar 14, 2010 2:43 pm

I'd really like to clone the drive itself, much like I do with Ghost on a PC or SuperDuper on a Mac so I can just keep a spare drive around.
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Kevin Nolan wrote:
dhjdhj wrote:I guess this is not possible....do I really have to physically remove the drive to back it up?
Well I have a 0.5 TB Hard Disk connected to my OASYS, and I regularly back up all data, 3rd party libraries etc onto it.

I have spent a lot of time organising my data into a tree-hierarchy, with top level folders with titles such as "soundlib" for my sound library and so on.

Then, backing up this folder is simply a matter of selecting it, going to the utility menu and choosing copy, then go to the external hard drive and chose the "paste" option which becomes available on the screen. Everything in my sound library under that folder name is copied to the external hard disk.

I save such back ups in date-labelled folders on the external HD for easy access in the future.

You only need to back up user data - songs, programs, 3rd party libraries (and then only is modified or customised for your usage). Everything else from the OS to factory sounds and settings are available form the OS CDs.

The key is to organise your data into a hierarchy of folders; and separate out "once-off installed user data" that never changes such as sound libs from regularly changing sound data such as songs.

Hope this helps.

Kevin.

Kevin Nolan · Post by **Kevin Nolan** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:18 am

You inadvertantly raise some interesting questions:

If you purchase a separate HD, insert it into the OASYS, format it and install the OS and Plugins onto it:

1. How do you recalibrate the system - screen, controller ranges etc.? Does anyone have access to that procedure or know how to get it? I think I read from Dan before that the recommended procedure is to return the OASYS to a dealer for this to be done but given the OASYS is end of lifed and all are out of warranty, it would be great to get this document so we could do it ourselves.

2. Does this affect the Public ID of the system and therefore the authorization of purchased plugins?

3. How do you re-authorize your plugins once the new HD is installed?

The OASYS is more vulnerable than other ROM-OS based synths - our OS loads from a standard PC HD with moving parts which will eventually ware out; so we all face a re-install at some time and knowing the procedure is IMO important.

Kevin.

dhjdhj · Post by **dhjdhj** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 12:14 pm

Yeah, these are good questions, but I had hoped that if I could clone the drive externally, then when I insert it into the Oasys, it's already formatted with OS and Plugins, public ID, etc

But yes, it would be good to have some real answers to these questions.

Post by **Sharp** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 7:34 pm

You would have to remove the HDD and mount it elsewhere to clone it.
In the past I've used this program http://www.miray.de and I found it to be excellent.

I'm sure it would work for the OASYS too, but no idea if this could cause the OASYS to be come unauthorised. You certainly wouldn't have to worry about calibration or anything like that.

Regards
Sharp

eddie g · Post by **eddie g** » Wed Mar 17, 2010 4:14 am

Want to install OS V:1.3.32 and save old sounds that I've modified, saved to the HD & reload them (if that’s necessary) after installing new OS. Can’t find anything on whether the current Combis that I’ve changed & saved will be changed or not when I install the new OS.

Can anyone help enlighten the unenlightened?

After doing this I'll also be looking to create an ISO image of my internal HD via an external PC.

Post by **Sharp** » Wed Mar 17, 2010 2:08 pm

Want to install OS V:1.3.32 and save old sounds that I've modified, saved to the HD & reload them (if that’s necessary) after installing new OS. Can’t find anything on whether the current Combis that I’ve changed & saved will be changed or not when I install the new OS.

Can anyone help enlighten the unenlightened

You most certainly should save a copy of your sounds to disk as they could very well be overwritten during the OS updgrade depending on where you put them.

The OASYS will reload it's factory data during the upgrade.

Regards
Sharp.

eddie g · Post by **eddie g** » Wed Mar 17, 2010 2:42 pm

Thanx Sharp. That's what I suspected. I only modified about 30 combis. Will I be able 2 load just those modified combis back over the factory pre-sets from the new OS?

eddie g · Post by **eddie g** » Wed Mar 17, 2010 2:44 pm

Btw, where can I save future combis, etc. on the OASYS that the new OS will not over write the data?

Post by **Sharp** » Wed Mar 17, 2010 2:55 pm

Will I be able 2 load just those modified combis back over the factory pre-sets from the new OS?

Yes you can use the OPEN option to load a bank or individual sounds one by one.

Btw, where can I save future combis, etc. on the OASYS that the new OS will not over write the data?

Always have a copy of your sounds on the hard disk. You can store them in any folder except for the Factory folder and they will be safe.

Regards
Sharp.

eddie g · Post by **eddie g** » Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:43 pm

Thanks again & Happy St. Patrick's Day!

jg:: · Post by **jg::** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 3:52 am

And for extra security, avoid St Patrick's day celebrations....

No, I meant, for extra security, periodically backup your files to memory stick or USB hard drive, as Kevin explained earlier in the thread.

jg::

rudolfck · Post by **rudolfck** » Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:39 am

1. How do you recalibrate the system - screen, controller ranges etc.? Does anyone have access to that procedure or know how to get it? I think I read from Dan before that the recommended procedure is to return the OASYS to a dealer for this to be done but given the OASYS is end of lifed and all are out of warranty, it would be great to get this document so we could do it ourselves.

I have the pdf file for that.