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new to M50...HOW DO I SAVE A DARN SONG?!?!?

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 3:06 am
by yadu kuru
just got an m50 and it didn't come with manuals.
i'm figuring it out ok, but for some reason, can't figure out how to save my work. i just spent 4 hours working on a piece and i thought it was saved, but it was all gone when i turned the station back on.

help.

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 4:03 am
by CfNorENa
Oops! Yeah, all sequencer data is lost on power off. In order to save it, you have to save to an SD card.

As for the manual and parameter guide (both important), they can be downloaded as PDF documents from the Korg website. Follow this link and then go to the "support" tab:

http://www.korg.com/Product.aspx?pd=413

Good luck -- and welcome to the board.

Cheers, Carlos

SD cards..

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:46 pm
by tototwo
Where can you get these?? is it through Korg?? Thanks

Re: SD cards..

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 12:00 am
by CfNorENa
tototwo wrote:Where can you get these?? is it through Korg?? Thanks
I assume you're referring to the SD cards. They're available at all electronics stores (Radio Shack, etc.), and at places like Target (where I got mine). Get a 2 GB card. Some users have experimented with cards with larger memories, but it's not really necessary, and in any case the manual states that 2 GB is the max.

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 12:52 am
by tototwo
thanks, i'll check target. Also im trying to adjust the pitch bend on the m50 joystick to increase it past the factory setting..it was easy on my x50, do you know how to on the m50 any help i'd appreciate..

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 2:08 am
by Synthoid
CfNorENa wrote: the manual and parameter guide (both important), they can be downloaded as PDF documents from the Korg website. Follow this link and then go to the "support" tab:

http://www.korg.com/Product.aspx?pd=413
It's all in the manual.

8)

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 7:26 am
by yadu kuru
thanks for the input. so, i got an sd card and i'm still having problems.
i don't know if any of you find the manual as hard to read as i do, but to me, it's not easy reading.
can someone just tell me, in simple terms, how to save a song and then open it up and play it later on?
i did a little demo and used the 'save all' option, but when i go to load it, it just lists all the voices and patterns and i can't really figure out how to listen/edit it.
so, in laymens terms, what the heck do i do?

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 7:44 am
by kimu
after you have sequenced your song in M50 sequencer, have to go in MEDIA, select the SAVE tab and then select SAVE SEQUENCER, M50 will prompt you to assing a new name to the song and then save in .sng format or MIDI according to you need.

for playing a stored song, enter MEDIA, select LOAD tab, select the song to load and press load command, then enter sequencer mode and you have the song (S000 or S001).

Here's another thing I can't figure out

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 10:16 am
by yadu kuru
ok, so while i'm trying to learn how to save and load songs, i'm working on a project. i hit some button, i guess, and all of a sudden, every track that i had recorded for the past few hours was turned into grand piano. all that time was wasted and i'm starting to feel like the m50 might not be the most user-friendly work station.

i'm also having a hard time using preset patterns with the specific kit i wanna use. it seems like everytime i try to use a preset pattern, there's nothing i can do to change the drum kit or get it to sound the way it did last time i heard it.


aaarrgghh!! frustrated!

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 10:44 am
by kimu
i think that a look at least at sequencer section in the Manual will solve many of your problem...

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 12:25 pm
by Synthoid
yadu kuru wrote:i don't know if any of you find the manual as hard to read as i do, but to me, it's not easy reading.
Yes, it is rather technical. Have you downloaded the M50 Easy Start Guide from Korg? That's a good place to start.

Also... do a search on YouTube for M50 tutorials.

Re: Here's another thing I can't figure out

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 4:17 pm
by CfNorENa
yadu kuru wrote:all that time was wasted and i'm starting to feel like the m50 might not be the most user-friendly work station.
I imagine that everyone on this forum has been in the same boat at one time or another. The reason is that workstations -- all workstations -- are inherently complicated (because they do so many different things in a single box). That said, if you read around on the various internet forums, I think you'll find that Korg workstations are frequently seen as the most user friendly (even the Yamaha fan boys will admit as much!). And that touch screen is a BIG reason why.

The internet tutorials posted by Rich Formidoni are a great resource. But nothing can replace regular use and constant consultation of both the manual and the parameter guide. The time and effort will pay off.

Best of luck with it.

Re: Here's another thing I can't figure out

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 6:00 pm
by Synthoid
CfNorENa wrote:nothing can replace regular use and constant consultation of both the manual and the parameter guide. The time and effort will pay off.
Time and effort--two important factors.

You won't learn about the M50, or any new workstation in a day or two--it takes patience.

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 7:19 pm
by mocando
Definitively I see workstations as a DSLR camera with interchangeable lenses and all. A cheap arranger is more like a point and shoot camera. Just switch the dial to the scene you want to capture and squeeze the shutter button. The image will come out "generally" good.

But for hard core image quality, nothing beats a DSLR. Is it complicated? It is. Does it need at least basic imaging and photography knowledge, it does. Does it need to read the manual, it certainly does. Not only the manual, but all the external information (like a forum) available.

You got yourself a very nice piece of equipment. PROFESSIONAL equipment. Is not a toy piano. If you want to master it, study, read and have patience. If you feel you don't want to embark in such a trip, well sell it and get a Yamaha PSR-E313. It will cost a tenth of the price, and you'll have all the nicely colored buttons and notes dancing on the display as you play.

No disrespect here, but you have to understand the level of equipment you got.

Cheers 8)

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:32 pm
by bigbenbullet
mocando wrote:But for hard core image quality, nothing beats a DSLR.
But for hard core image quality, nothing beats an SLR.

... there, fixed that for ya :twisted:

now where did I leave my Steinway somewhere?