Fat bass leads out of the radias?

[CFC]

Recently I am trying to program some extremely fat bass sounds out of my radias like Justice used it in the song Waters of Nazareth. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqJu_3CP ... =1&index=1

But somehow I don't get them to sound as beast as the one I hear in this song.
The sounds always seem to end up too clean or too mushy.
Maybe some of you have more experience in creating these kinds of sounds and can give me some advices and hints.
Would be great

[tpantano]

Recently I am trying to program some extremely fat bass sounds out of my radias like Justice used it in the song Waters of Nazareth. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqJu_3CP ... =1&index=1

But somehow I don't get them to sound as beast as the one I hear in this song.
The sounds always seem to end up too clean or too mushy.
Maybe some of you have more experience in creating these kinds of sounds and can give me some advices and hints.
Would be great

I'm not nearly as experienced as some people here, but things to try:

Use saws, definitely... though maybe a square, on higher notes it sounds kinda of scary.

To make that effect that it widens further up on the keyboard, use filter key tracking.

Unison; both the unison function and osc 1 unison are good to work with

A little bit of noise can't hurt

Use distortion to add a bit of crunch to the sound

Pickup Waveshaping or Drive help as well

Also, that sound definitely has a high pass or band pass or something on it removing some of the lows, even though its a bass.

Justice runs quality degraders over all of their tracks; try using your decimator effect in moderation

Try other things such as using an LFO set to S&H starting at .01Hz and modulating parameters like cutoff and maybe even a little bit of pitch

add the tiniest bit of portamento

All of these are just some ideas. Someone else may be able to help more.

[CFC]

Thx man! I will try some of this stuff!
Problem I had is when I use unison functions + distortion/waveshaper the whole sound gets a bit messy.
I already heard about the Radias having some troubles with bass sounds...i for myself haven't had any problem until now.
Could be the case this time though.
But I still hope I get something usefull to work with

[tpantano]

Thx man! I will try some of this stuff!
Problem I had is when I use unison functions + distortion/waveshaper the whole sound gets a bit messy.
I already heard about the Radias having some troubles with bass sounds...i for myself haven't had any problem until now.
Could be the case this time though.
But I still hope I get something usefull to work with

How are your speakers/headsets?

Also, a high pass or band pass can really help to clean up the 'mess' you're talking about while still keeping the original feel (if used in moderation).

Now I don't mean use only a HPF or BPF; start with an LPF and then add a HPF/BPF in serial to it.

[CFC]

Should be okay on the Monitor/Headphones side.
Lately my studioheadphnones crushed themselfes but for now I am using the Senheiser HD515. I still I have to get myself comfortable with them but they seem to be pretty good.

[tpantano]

Should be okay on the Monitor/Headphones side.
Lately my studioheadphnones crushed themselfes but for now I am using the Senheiser HD515. I still I have to get myself comfortable with them but they seem to be pretty good.

Ok, their great, you're fine.

I was thinking some of your sound muddiness could be speaker color but you've got sennheisers HDs so you're all set lol.

Also, know that I think about it, keytracking might not be how they make they sound kindof open on higher notes, I'm thinking they may have just routed a mod wheel to LPF cutoff.

[CFC]

Decimator seems to get it done pretty badass. Only problem here is when I bitcrush the Signal down to 4 bit I get these crackles when triggering and releasing a note.
Amp Attack and Decay are no options because in this state of distortion there is only signal on and signal off...is there any workaround to get rid off unwanted crackles?

[tpantano]

Decimator seems to get it done pretty badass. Only problem here is when I bitcrush the Signal down to 4 bit I get these crackles when triggering and releasing a note.
Amp Attack and Decay are no options because in this state of distortion there is only signal on and signal off...is there any workaround to get rid off unwanted crackles?

nope, I don't believe so...