Post your favorite ways to use the X-Y controller!!

Miggz McFly · Post by **Miggz McFly** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 4:54 pm

Hey guys, been using the X-Y controller, after getting help from my other thread. And I love it. And I was wondering, what ways you guys like to use this controller?

We can all share tips and tricks with each other here. Thanks!

Miggz McFly · Post by **Miggz McFly** » Tue Dec 21, 2010 4:29 pm

cmon guys nobody?

ozy · Post by **ozy** » Wed Dec 22, 2010 2:46 pm

since you insist:

I use the "x/y controller" as an informative touch screen for programming the m3. Stop.

I never could use it musically.

I snubbed also the moog voyager's touch pad.

IMHO, they are not really musical tools. The word "twodimensional" comes to mind. Also, I am not comfy hitting on a fragile lcd. I need physical interaction with an instrument, and the x/y is too filmsy, "computerish": good when programming the sequencer, but wouldn't solo on it live.

And I am a fan of alternate controllers: I use plenty of pedals, breath control, ecc.

This is possibily why nobody is answering your post.

On the other hand, I see Eminent Keyboardists soloing on I-phone screens, so... I am probably the usual Dynosaur.

X-Trade · Post by **X-Trade** » Wed Dec 22, 2010 2:56 pm

I don't have an M3 but I love using the XY pad on my ReMote37SL to control Radias filter cutoff or resonance and 'type' blend parameter knob. If you have a really raw/distorted lead sound it works very nicely.

I also love the tape delay setting on my mini-KP.
I don't use that for soloing but for crazy modulation sounds it is great. The setup on that is X=Delaytime(temposynced), Y=feedback.

Miggz McFly · Post by **Miggz McFly** » Wed Dec 22, 2010 3:36 pm

thanks ozy for your erection killing post.
and xtrade, that sounds cool!

ozy · Post by **ozy** » Wed Dec 22, 2010 3:48 pm

I am sorry that my subjective answer, in which I related my experience with the xy, emasculated you. I seriously hope it's just temporary.

Again, sorry for the incovenience.

Miggz McFly · Post by **Miggz McFly** » Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:03 pm

lol no bro, i was just messin

thanks though

BasariStudios · Post by **BasariStudios** » Wed Dec 22, 2010 5:04 pm

None besides for what it is meant for, as a monitor.

RI Producer · Post by **RI Producer** » Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:44 pm

Mostly just to solo different parts out in a combi. But the thing with the strings is cool. I'm trying to get more in to designing my own synths so im sure the XY screen will come in handy, as well as the ribbon. Tho after a year of playing the guitar my first 3 fingers are so calloused that the ribbon does not respond to it i have to use my pinkey.

Savante · Post by **Savante** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 2:21 am

I'm very into using my R2M ribbon controller for pitch bend, and I first got my feet wet with this type of touch controller with the X-Y pad on the Korg Z1. So I find the X-Y pad capability of the M3 to be quite familiar and usable. I especially like it for morphing pad sounds in real time.

HOWEVER, I have one big complaint about the X-Y function on the M3, which I feel is an oversight by Korg, and could and should be easily remedied. The problem is this: When I am morphing sounds in real time, I use the pad's "hold" function -- meaning that when I lift my finger from the pad, the sound stays where I left it (it doesn't snap back to center). Then I can play awhile on the keyboard with the current edit of the sound. But then when I want to morph the sound again, I want to put my finger back on the pad right where I last took it off. This is so that the sound doesn't make a sudden "jump" to a new sound, but rather I can morph it smoothly.

The problem is that in order to do this, I have to memorize and keep in mind where my finger was on the pad when I let go of it last. This is an unnecessary annoyance. Why couldn't Korg have the pad display something like a flashing dot on the screen where it was last touched? This should be easy to implement, and would solve my problem completely. And it could be an option that could be turned off if someone didn't want the flashing dot there for some reason, and then it would behave as it does now -- with no indication whatsoever of where the pad was last touched in "hold" mode.

BasariStudios · Post by **BasariStudios** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 7:11 am

As for the Ribon is a different story, i use it and have it assigned to something
in every single Sounds and use it maybe 95% of the playing time.

philipgruver · Post by **philipgruver** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 7:49 am

I accidentally found a really cool way of using the XY controller in sequencing. In sequence mode I was using a program where I had set X to cutoff and Y to resonance. The accident part came when I had forgotten to change the quantization back from eighth notes to hi. When I started recording a track, I pressed the XY mode then Hold buttons and was sweeping my finger all around the XY pad in a round-about continuous motion throughout the recording. When I was done recording a played it back and found that instead of having continuous changes in resonance and cutoff, the changes were stepwise in eighth notes. The resulting sample-and-hold like variation added an unexpected dynamic to the song.

georgeinar · Post by **georgeinar** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 12:06 pm

I do that sometimes on purpose, when you're using any controler, ribbon joyst etc. if you quantize it, it can sometimes be interesting depending on the type of music

Miggz McFly · Post by **Miggz McFly** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 12:10 pm

philipgruver wrote:I accidentally found a really cool way of using the XY controller in sequencing. In sequence mode I was using a program where I had set X to cutoff and Y to resonance. The accident part came when I had forgotten to change the quantization back from eighth notes to hi. When I started recording a track, I pressed the XY mode then Hold buttons and was sweeping my finger all around the XY pad in a round-about continuous motion throughout the recording. When I was done recording a played it back and found that instead of having continuous changes in resonance and cutoff, the changes were stepwise in eighth notes. The resulting sample-and-hold like variation added an unexpected dynamic to the song.

you know what, that is pretty cool. So that means the cc values from the joystick and ribbon controller can be quantized as well?

edit: georgeinar answered me already.
Im definitely going to play with it when i get home

(that's what she said)