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What apps should be developed?

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 7:35 am
by Tom_1970
I think the iElectribe and iMS20 are great apps, but what apps would you like to see in the future from Korg?
No doubt that expanding the legacy line to the iPad can be interesting, but I also like the idea of dedicated editor apps for Korg gear. It would be great to edit your Micro-x/X50 or MicroKorg from an iPad. I think that Yamaha did a great job with developing editor apps for their Motif.

What are your ideas, fantasies, wishes when it comes to the iPad?


Regards

Tom

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 4:00 pm
by outbackyak
I'm too new to the iPad and apps to comment on your basic question, but I've just had a look at the Yamaha apps and they look very impressive. There's obviously going to be big things happening for iPad if Yamaha get on board.

While I'd love to see more Korg apps from the Legacy line, I just hope they are listening to their user base and are intending to introduce copy and paste and things of that nature for the iMS-20 and iElectribe.

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On a related note, I'm surprised given the success of the apps from KORG and IK Multimedia (Amplitube and the Groove Maker series) that other major manufacturers and software companies haven't jumped on the bandwagon and ported some of their programs to the iPad.

I've just been through all 1279 paid music iPad apps on the Australian iTunes, and apart from ReBirth from Propellerhead, I didn't see a single app from a major player in the high tech music industry. I may have missed one or even two, but I'm pretty familiar with most of the big players' products, even if only on an "I know that name" basis. It's only KORG and IK Multimedia that have gone this route as far as I can see.

Moog have Filtatron which is an iPhone app that will also run on iPad, but I'm not going to go through all the iPhone apps too - there's over 6000 of them.

Where's my Jupiter 8? OK Roland are unlikely to release it themselves, given they haven't ported anything to PC directly, but Arturia have the Jupiter-8V and a slew of other good VSTi's that could probably run as standalone apps on the iPad, although probably only monophonically. I'd kill for their Moog Modular V, but it might be asking too much of the iPad.

Where are the other big players like Native Instruments, Spectrasonics, GForce, FXpansion, uHe, and all the rest? Sure, their top of the line stuff won't run, but if the iMS-20 will run just fine, there's got to be tons of other synths that would too.

And for that matter iTunes is littered with crappy sequencers from minor companies that are selling. There's obviously no way to port a full Logic or even GarageBand to iPad, but you would think Apple would leap at the chance of releasing a cut down version of GarageBand. Or if not them, how about a cut down Live or Reason.

The original version of Reason was released in 2000 and would run on a PC PII 233 or a Mac PPC 604/166, with 64MB of ram. I find it difficult to believe that a cut down version of Reason couldn't be made to run on the iPad, with its 1GHz A4 CPU and 256MB of RAM.

They might not want to cut into their sales of their full product, but if the files produced on the iPad version were compatible with their current full version it would make a great lead-in to selling the full version. I for one would buy it, simply because I know how it works and I could work on a basic composition anywhere then port it to my PC for finishing off in the full version. [/rant] :lol:

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 4:23 pm
by Tom_1970
I agree that it is a pitty that the big companies ar not really on the iPad market at this moment
The iPad, however, is still a relatively new product and this NAMM showed that the companies are beginning to see the potential of the iPad as a musical instrument. The Alesis Studiodock and the Akai Synthtation 49 are really nice in my opinion. Akai will come with a new version of their synthstation app especially for iPad and it looks very interesting.

I agree that it should be great if companies like Arturia and Gforce will bring us some of their nice synths as apps.
On the other hand, I already have some very nice music apps developed by individuals or small companies.

Besides instruments I like to use the iPad as a controller for hard- en software. The Yamaha apps are a great example of what is posibble and I really hope that there will be more dedicated apps in the future.

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:48 pm
by Scott M2
MonoPoly!

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 9:18 pm
by Tom_1970
I second that.
Wavestation also would be nice.

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:21 pm
by loopstationzebra
Who cares what future apps Korg offers?

As long as they continue refusing to implement full MIDI capabilities into their apps (basic, basic stuff) they are merely novelty items to play with whilst taking a $hit.

Again, the iElectribe has been out how long and there's still no MIDI implementation?

Jesus Wept.

:x

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:50 pm
by Tom_1970
I do not fully agree with you.
IMS20 was updated soon after the release of iOS 4.2.

I agree that more apps need MIDI integration, but I think and hope that's just a matter of time. IF you look at the iPad products anounced at the NAMM I think that this is just the beginning.

By the way, I know this is a Korg forum, but with this topic I didn't mean Korg only products.

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 4:49 pm
by Scott M2
I also don't agree. The MIDI update for the iMS-20 is terrific (though MIDI sync with song-position pointers would take it all the way).

A Wavestation or M1 (with resonant filters) would be great.

4 note polyphony for the MS-20 would also be sweet.

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:19 pm
by loopstationzebra
You guys consider no MIDI out for the iMS-20 to be a great update?

Oh boy.

:?

And it's been 2 months now since iOS4 was released. If you were a dev, you got the specs way before that to start implementing. :x

Why is it that of ALL the iPad instrument apps, there's only ONE dev who's integrated full MIDI (molten)? Including clock sync? And he's just one guy who's got a life. :lol: Nevermind that KORG is about 100x bigger.

Only 1. Uno. One. Wow. Just......wow. :x

I've heard back from over half a dozen app dev that I emailed asking about full MIDI implementation. I swear to GOD, each one of them was quite bewildered as to why I would even need it.

Jesus Wept.

:cry:

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 8:36 pm
by jdoo
It seems like you're taking this all rather personally, zebra. At the end of the day, it comes down to a business decision as to whether or not a company will enable features in their software. If there is enough demand, and they can make a buck investing the time and resources into the effort - then it might come about. If adding a feature / capability will cripple the value of something they already sell ( typically refered to as cannabilizing their existing product line) - then it may not come about. That is, unless one of the competitors develops the feature, and it starts cutting into sales of their legacy stuff. In any case - it is great to express interest in getting a feature onto a platform, and to ping the companies, expressing your interest in some new feature... But don't give yourself kittens over the response, if it's not what you want to hear.

Joe (27 years software development)
loopstationzebra wrote:You guys consider no MIDI out for the iMS-20 to be a great update?

Oh boy.

:?

And it's been 2 months now since iOS4 was released. If you were a dev, you got the specs way before that to start implementing. :x

Why is it that of ALL the iPad instrument apps, there's only ONE dev who's integrated full MIDI (molten)? Including clock sync? And he's just one guy who's got a life. :lol: Nevermind that KORG is about 100x bigger.

Only 1. Uno. One. Wow. Just......wow. :x

I've heard back from over half a dozen app dev that I emailed asking about full MIDI implementation. I swear to GOD, each one of them was quite bewildered as to why I would even need it.

Jesus Wept.

:cry:

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 7:49 am
by outbackyak
An interesting app that's just been announced at NAMM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJnZDNoxiLI

Anybody else want a Fairlight CMI for their iPad? Developed by one of the original Fairlight founders? A$50 doesn't seem unreasonable if it really does recreate the sound and programming capabilities of the original.

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:54 am
by Tom_1970
Hm....interesting.
Depending on sound and interface this could be very nice.

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:49 pm
by outbackyak
Yes - although if the interface is very like the original it's also probably fairly difficult to use. If they've updated the interface a bit it wouldn't worry me; I prefer ease of use to slavish accuracy.

I wonder which version of the Fairlight it emulates - crunchy early 8 bit or the later CD quality 16bit versions. It would be nice if you got the choice of sampling frequency and bit depth.

If it's really an accurate recreation it will be astonishing - I've just been looking at the Fairlight article on Wikipedia. How times have changed! A$50 instead of 20,000 to 50,000 UK pounds (or more if you went for one of the later versions and expansions), runs on a 700gram tablet, not a 32 Kg monster; available to almost anyone anywhere, not just in the major studios or the homes of mega-rich rock stars.

Don't let anyone tell you about the good old days - I've been there, and they weren't that good.

Editors?...

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 3:28 pm
by pfrocha
While soft synths are really the talk of the town, how about porting the simple Editors for the keyboards to the iPad?

It would be cool to be able to edit sounds and combos on the go using a large screen without needing or computer or laptop around!

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 2:26 pm
by dswo
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