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I'm the village idiot whenever it comes to device to device MIDI and computer editing programs.

Mind holding my hand through setting my Radias up via USB?

I got it to make sounds with the Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth, but anybody with a brain knows that that's baby stuff.

Sorry if I'm not reading some sort of manual beforehand or checking another thread for answers, I'm not too good at navigating forums either...

Are you satisfied with being the village idiot, or do you actually want to learn something to move from ignorance to knowledge? It does require some effort to learn things. The manual is easily available for download, and it's actually easier to take 15 minutes skimming it to see all the useful info it has. If you don't understand something it explains, that's fine, but usually you'll understand a lot of other info during the process that will help you better learn how it works. It's very normal to be somewhat confused when you read something the first time, so rather than let that feeling of confusion stop you, just ignore it and skip ahead to read some more. Often you'll find that something you read will start to make sense and explain other things you've read that didn't make sense either.

It's like a big jigsaw puzzle where nothing makes sense at first - it's just a jumble of information that has little obvious connection to each other. But after a while you get a few groups of pieces to fit together. But you might not really have a good idea of what the puzzle shows until near the end when only a few unessential pieces are missing.

Thanks xmlguy, even though you came off a bit insulting at the begging...

Mind showing me where this Manual is located?

What I really want to do is save patches as .vst's for my buddies, make patches using the computer instead of just the synthesizer, and get my patches to play through my computer speakers.

Again, sorry if I'm wasting anybody's time. I just don't know much about MIDI connectivity other than in-computer stuff. And even then, I'm pretty new at it. The farthest I've ever gone into this is small notation programs and Trackers. And I am BAD at tracking.

mastere wrote:Mind showing me where this Manual is located?

Whether you bought your keyboard new or used, you should have received a manual with it. If not, download from this page (click DOCUMENTATION):

http://korg.com/SearchResults.aspx?sp=Radias

mastere wrote:What I really want to do is save patches as .vst's for my buddies, make patches using the computer instead of just the synthesizer, and get my patches to play through my computer speakers.

If you want to share patches between friends who own a Radias, yes. What is your ultimate goal here? I don't recommend using cheap computer speakers for the Radias--a pair of active monitors would produce much better sound. Visit your local pro music store and auditon what they have to offer.

Synthoid wrote:If you want to share patches between friends, yes. What is your ultimate goal here? I don't recommend using cheap computer speakers for the Radias--a pair of active monitors would produce much better sound. Visit your local pro music store and auditon what they have to offer.

Not to sound rude, but "yes" what?

My ultimate goal is to use my Radias to it's fullest effect easily and properly. But, since I'm very new to programs that edit noise and use MIDI controllers, this is all very new territory for me.

EDIT: Also, I would like to be able to create more blank patches without overwriting my old ones. All my blank sawtooth slates are used, and I want to create more instruments!

I just edited my post. You can share patches with anyone else who owns a Radias, yes.

You do not need a computer to "use my Radias to it's fullest effect easily and properly." As a matter of fact, if you download and read the manual, you will find out how to program the Radias and utilize all its features without a computer.

I've owned the Radias keyboard for over a year and it's never been connected to a computer, just my studio sound system.

Synthoid wrote:I just edited my post. You can share patches with anyone else who owns a Radias, yes.

You do not need a computer to "use my Radias to it's fullest effect easily and properly." As a matter of fact, if you download and read the manual, you will find out how to program the Radias and utilize all its features without a computer.

I've owned the Radias keyboard for over a year and it's never been connected to a computer, just my studio sound system.

I know about sound, just not about the hardware.

So, oh great wise one, what must I do to not only utilize it on a computer, but by itself?

Please note that I don't have MIDI cables or a MIDI console. I just have a USB cable. I also don't even have monitors or a big old studio. Just a portable speaker and some converters so that the 1/8 fits.

EDIT: What about if they don't own a Radias? Can I make .vst's that can work on Virtual Synthesizers?

mastere wrote:what must I do to not only utilize it on a computer, but by itself?

Download and read the manual.

mastere wrote:EDIT: What about if they don't own a Radias? Can I make .vst's that can work on Virtual Synthesizers?

Nope.

mastere wrote:

Synthoid wrote:I just edited my post. You can share patches with anyone else who owns a Radias, yes.

You do not need a computer to "use my Radias to it's fullest effect easily and properly." As a matter of fact, if you download and read the manual, you will find out how to program the Radias and utilize all its features without a computer.

I've owned the Radias keyboard for over a year and it's never been connected to a computer, just my studio sound system.

I know about sound, just not about the hardware.

So, oh great wise one, what must I do to not only utilize it on a computer, but by itself?

Please note that I don't have MIDI cables or a MIDI console. I just have a USB cable. I also don't even have monitors or a big old studio. Just a portable speaker and some converters so that the 1/8 fits.

EDIT: What about if they don't own a Radias? Can I make .vst's that can work on Virtual Synthesizers?

@your edit: no.

At everything else: what are you asking o.O?

tpantano wrote:At everything else: what are you asking o.O?

How do I create more blank slates (Seen in the User Int. instruments) that I can modify, and how can I move the already created patches I have made into my computer?

Also, I checked out the manual. Again, this is far from my comfort zone, so all of this makes little sense to me. However, don't you even think for a second that I will quit!

"What I really want to do is save patches as .vst's for my buddies, make patches using the computer instead of just the synthesizer, and get my patches to play through my computer speakers."

1. You can't save patches as VST instruments, but you can save patches as files to use with the Radias editor. In order to use these patches, your buddies will need a Radias of their own, plus the included software to open the patch files.
2. The Radias does not send out audio through USB, so you need to connect an actual audio cable from the outputs of the synthesizer to the audio input jacks of your computer if any are available. Most computers come equipped with a MIC IN line, which would work.

"How do I create more blank slates that I can modify, and how can I move the already created patches I have made into my computer?"

1. To create more blank states, you need to find a patch on the synthesizer you no longer wish to use, then initialize it. That process is listed in the manual.
2. To save patches to a computer, you need to download and install the Radias editor and USB driver. Both are located on Korg's website, just search Radias and go to the Support Section.
3. The Radias editor will probably come with a PDF manual or help section within the program, so make sure to read it thoroughly.

If reading a manual is beyond the comfort zone, synthesizers might not be the right instrument of choice. They require reading the manual in-depth to fully understand how they operate and can be programmed.

Re-Member wrote: 1. To create more blank states, you need to find a patch on the synthesizer you no longer wish to use, then initialize it. That process is listed in the manual.

I don't want to initialize any instruments in the process! Isn't there some way to just bring a blank into existence as is, without overwriting anything? If I have to move factory instruments or custom instruments to my hard drive (if possible over USB), I would.

Re-Member wrote:3. The Radias editor will probably come with a PDF manual or help section within the program, so make sure to read it thoroughly.

If reading a manual is beyond the comfort zone, synthesizers might not be the right instrument of choice. They require reading the manual in-depth to fully understand how they operate and can be programmed.

I guess I should do more reading... Sorry for being lazy folks, it's one of my bad habits.



Also, if you said that the Radias can't send sound through MIDI, how would Radias-created Patches and Instruments be sent to a notation program? Or a mixing program?

So many new stuff for me to learn...

"I don't want to initialize any instruments in the process! Isn't there some way to just bring a blank into existence as is without overwriting anything? If I have to move factory instruments or custom instruments to my hard drive (if possible over USB), I would."

This is where the editing software comes in handy. With it, you can back up the entire synthesizer with one file that will include all it's patches, or save individual patch files. In other words, once you get that software installed, you can create a library of hundreds of patches, plus load in others from fellow users.

Also, if you said that the Radias can't send sound through MIDI, how would Radias-created Patches and Instruments be sent to a notation program? Or a mixing program?

MIDI sort of acts like a Nintendo controller, so for notation, you need a MIDI sequencing program or DAW. As for mixing, you need an audio wire routed from the synth to the computer somehow, or a USB Audio interface to plug the synth into. A USB Audio interface acts as a converter for sending audio to the computer via USB.

mastere wrote:Also, if you said that the Radias can't send sound through MIDI, how would Radias-created Patches and Instruments be sent to a notation program? Or a mixing program?

Notation programs and mixing programs can't do anything with synth patches. A synth patch is just a list of parameter values that configure how it makes sound. A patch has no sound or musical notes. The sound and notes only are made when the patch is used by the synth when you press the keys or send it midi notes to play. The sound that the synth makes is only sent to the audio outputs, which have nothing to do with USB or midi. Midi is not audio. Midi events reflect what the synth is doing, like which keys are pressed, and midi can be used to control the synth. A notation program (sequencer) can record those midi events and play them back. An audio/mixing program (DAW) can record the audio (although most can record the midi too, separately from the audio).

The term patch comes from modular analog synthesizers where individual patch cables are used to route the audio in a particular way to make a sound. On a synth that's controlled by software, the patch is merely a list of parameters and settings that describe how the audio is routed in the synthesis engine. The patch has no audio - it controls how the audio is made. It's like a football playbook - the book doesn't play football - it tells how the players how to accomplish a particular kind of play on the field. To actually see the result of a particular play, you still need players to perform the actions described.

USB on the radias acts as a faster MIDI cable. So just how audio doesn't travel over MIDI cables, audio doesn't travel over USB.

Your patches (also known as programs) are not audio, your programs are long lists of settings that you can dump back and forth over USB and save them on your computer. Just like your computer hard drive, the radias doesn't have an unlimited amount of space to store data. It has enough space for 256 programs.

May I ask why you decided to jump into the world of hardware if you were not able to understand software(which can be cheap if not free)? And why you chose the radias? Are we just feeding the troll? What DAW are you using? You are actively using all 256 current programs on the radias and therefore can not overwrite a single one, correct? What do you mean by "use my radias to it's fullest effect easily and properly"? It seems like you know too much for how ignorant you are acting.