Klaas bass sounds

Morshu · Post by **Morshu** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 9:57 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9KnuJZkBjg

bass- starts somewhere around :30 to 42: seconds

i've made something like it before- but nothing ultra-accurate- and i havn't tried on the R3 yet.

considering how close i got on the microkorg- i figure that the R3 will be more than capable of replicating that sound..

so if you got and clues on how to replicate that bizzare bass - tell me.

Aciphecs · Post by **Aciphecs** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 1:57 pm

I'm not sure why you seem to want to copy everyone's sounds? Music, IMO, is meant to be creative, personal and unique. Copying other artists sounds accomplishes none of these!

DaniH · Post by **DaniH** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 3:19 pm

Aciphecs wrote:...Music, IMO, is meant to be creative, personal and unique. Copying other artists sounds accomplishes none of these!

I agree with you. My whole deal with sounding like someone else is just be a dj though. Why sound like EVERYONE else when you can create your own unique sound with such an amazing piece of equipment??

Besides, try making it yourself first Morshu. It can be a great experience for future patches.

cello · Post by **cello** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:26 pm

To be fair to Morshu, (s)he may be like many gigging musicians doing covers so therefore needs to get at least close to those sounds - think of 'Jump'...

On the other hand - of course, Korg machines are fantastic tools to create new sounds and such creativity should always be encouraged!

Morshu · Post by **Morshu** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:55 pm

Well, because I want to learn from what exists- not to copy necessarily- even though i've noticed that countless artists use the same or similar sounds sometimes lol.

so i'm not sure which one i'm going with on that.

I've tried, but it doesn't sound as distorted as it should. and i dont know how to do make it sound distorted properly

Morshu · Post by **Morshu** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:07 pm

and btw having every sound ever made replicated accurately on a synth- is a good way to gain skill anyways.

but i doubt that would be possible with an r3- maybe with a virus ti 2... or a alesis andromeda- those are probably the only synths capable of everything-

I find that modifying the presets can sometimes help at getting the sound you are aiming for though.

I thought the benassi bass preset that was posted here earlier wasn't very good, but when i edited the moog bass and the ms20 bass and added sine waves it sounded alot more accurate

But yea i see what you mean by "originality" but its not like thats all i do

X-Trade · Post by **X-Trade** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:21 pm

Morshu wrote: but i doubt that would be possible with an r3- maybe with a virus ti 2... or a alesis andromeda- those are probably the only synths capable of everything-

neither are exactly capable of 'everything'.

In terms of synthesis types, the R3 & Radias actually come out equal if not better off.

Andromeda is very flexible but it is still basically a simple poly subtractive analog synth.

and please don't double-post.

Morshu · Post by **Morshu** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:32 pm

well, the alesis does the analog end, and the virus does the digital end- so in a sense if you had both you would in turn be able to achieve anything with them.

and yes the r3 and radias are pretty similar. though i personally prefer the radias :0 lol

CharlesFerraro · Post by **CharlesFerraro** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:16 pm

Morshu wrote:well, the alesis does the analog end, and the virus does the digital end- so in a sense if you had both you would in turn be able to achieve anything with them.

Neither of those synths are capable of complex graintables like Spectrasonic's Omnisphere. You also couldn't draw and then morph between two waveforms like you could with U-He's Zebra 2. They're not modular or even semi modular like Arturia's Origin. They lack Articulative Phrase synthesis from Roland's unique V-Synth. Neither of them can resample like a Blofeld or Wave. And any synth capable of wavetables is going to have its own unique set, so running through the Pulse Code Modulations or Digital Waveform Generations in the MMT models will sound different from the index in the Virus' wavetable oscillator.

In fact, the Virus or RADIAS would mop the floor with the Andromeda in terms of volume and voice count (thats what VA's do). But the RADIAS is the only synth of the three with drum samples, formant recording, and a talking modulator effect afaik.

Morshu · Post by **Morshu** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:31 pm

well you can do the same thing with any 16 timbre synth- only you have to make the drums usually

but yes there are many features missing from that- you could have endless synths and not be completely capable, even if your using VSTS. lol. as today it would be prefferable to use some vsts(omnisphere is extraordinary) and alot of different hardware synths and samplers(software samplers are not that great).

CharlesFerraro · Post by **CharlesFerraro** » Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:42 am

Morshu wrote:(software samplers are not that great).

Samplers aren't my forte but Kontakt 5 or Halion 4 seem far more advanced than any piece of kit available. Is scripting even possible on hardware?

Morshu · Post by **Morshu** » Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:47 am

yes, you send scripts via serial/usb/midi to any expensive sampler i dont know if the cmi fairlight does tho