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Basic sample question

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So I get my Kronos (in two weeks I hope). I lay down my first composition. I create a multi sample with a basic 4 seconds of vocal to add a hook for a dance instrumental. I save the sam to an empty bank.
I save the sample and song. I save the sample to a memory stick and the song to the SSD. I switch off and get some sleep (if I can keep away from my Kronos).
I switch on the Kronos, put the memory stick into the kronos and tick the box that loads the sample from the memory stick, aswell as ticking the box for where my sequenced composition is.

Will the sample be in the programme where I saved it? And will the composition play with the sample recording, that I made ?

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First, everything can be saved to the SSD. Use the USB stick to transfer to the Kronos but use the SSD for storage.

Also, you can approach the audio samples in two ways. First, as you described, you can create a program that allows you to trigger the samples from the keyboard. Alternatively, you could just add the vocal samples to the sequence using audio tracks.

If you create a program and save it to U-G 001, for example, it will be there every time you turn on the Kronos. There is no need to reload it.

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Post by runningman67 »

So it's reasonably straight forward. I always struggled with the Triton to load multiple samples back along with the sequencer data.

Thanks for your reply I'll copy and paste it to my notes, I get brain freeze with the sample saving/ loading stuff .
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This may not be exactly what you want, but here's what I've done and it's perfect for me:

- I created a multisample by importing and editing a bunch of wav files from usb.
- I created a program in the user bank w/ this multisample so that I could play it.
- I then saved the multisample/keymap (KSC, I believe) to the internal drive under the Disk-Save tab as is described in the operation manual, using "save all" as recommended.

You can now turn your Kronos off and not lose any info. However, one more awesome step:

- I added this KSC to the Global-AutoLoad list and now when I boot up, my program and combis that use it play just as I want it to w/o having to manually load anything.

At that point, I would imagine you could simply load any sequence that calls this program and it would play just fine.

Sorry if this isn't what you want to do or if you already know this info. As described above, I'm elated that I don't have to manually do anything when I boot up and my sample content is all ready to go. I don't believe I was ever able to do this type of auto-load on any of my past samplers.

Hope this helps.
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Helps alot. I sort of know it but sometimes a bit of doubt sets in. I've got lots if projects waiting for when I get my Kronos I don't want to be shuffling through the books all night. So your words of wisdom are priceless.

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Post by SanderXpander »

The above described way is a really good step by step desciption of saving and loading user sample based programs.

However, from your desciption, it sounds much more convenient to just record the audio in one of the sequencer's audio tracks. The Kronos is not like the M3 where you use a "trick" of creating a sample based program to record audio into the sequencer. The Kronos supports full normal audio tracks like you might see in DAWs such as Logic, ProTools etc. You could call this a "sample" as well, but it tends to confuse matters in a machine with so many other uses for samples.
I say just record it to an audio track in the sequencer. Save the song with its audio tracks and if you ever load it up again, the audio will be right there.
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I would like to save the vocal sample, with effects, to a programme, that will be ready to use after booting up , everytime. Then I can use a key to play it when creating a song on the sequencer, let's say in the chorus, as you would with any other programme. I could use it on another song or even put it in as part of a combination.
I think it means saving Ksc as well as song and making sure that it is all loaded on boot up. So just box ticking?

Am I making sense.
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Post by SanderXpander »

In that case, I mistook your intent, and you're right, you need to make a KSC and a PCG and save it. Check Zeroesque's explanation, it's perfect for what you want.
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Thanks mate :D
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