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How to configure a pedal to control the Leslie rotor in comb

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 7:41 pm
by Insight
Where is the setting to configure a pedal to turn on and off the leslie rotor in combi mode?

I tried to search the forum, but get an error.

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 8:01 pm
by SanderXpander
With Korg equipment, as a general rule you set the modulator source at the target effect. Meaning in this case you go to the Leslie effect, look for where it says "rotor speed" and there you set the foot switch/pedal.

If you wanted to affect pitch with the ribbon controller, you wouldn't find it at a "ribbon controller" page but at the pitch page. Hope that makes sense. Good luck!

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:27 am
by Insight
In combi mode, I don't see rotor, would it be under Global?

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:10 am
by burningbusch
What you'll need to do is set it at the PROGRAM level. Go into EXi1 and then AMP/VC/ROTARY SP. Then change the SPEED SW from JS+Y to your pedal. Then save the PROGRAM. There is no universal way to do this as all of the factory programs have it set for the joystick. Don't be afraid to overwrite these programs as it's an easy change and you can always pull up the originals from the SSD.

Busch.

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 5:35 am
by ronnfigg
Be sure to check at the Global level what you have the various pedals set to do. If you have the Switch set for program advance that is what it will do. setting the rotary effect to run from the switch will still make the programs change- slight problem. There is now an AMS mixer that allows you to combine 2 different CCs to provide an AMS. I was able to get my Damper to switch the Leslie effect and had to use the AMS Mixer to allow the joystick to still do the same function. It will take some time to decipher the AMS mixer. It is a cool function. Kronos. Learn it. Love it. Live it.

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:51 am
by sani
I have always considered the number of possible foot controller on Korg workstations as being on the weak side. The Hold pedal functions globally and the same is the case if you set the second switch pedal to change the programs up or down.
I have always used an expression pedal and set it globally to cc#04 (Foot Pedal)

With that setting the pedal is always available as a controller for various things in various programs since it can be selected wherever there is AMS next to a parameter.

As a side note, I actually don't understand why Korg forces the settings for the pedals on a global level. It would be far better if we could set the function of a pedal on the program/combi level. In that case, the hold pedal which acts as a sustain pedal on a piano patch could be used as a Rotary switch on an organ patch.

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:23 am
by michelkeijzers
sani wrote:I have always considered the number of possible foot controller on Korg workstations as being on the weak side. The Hold pedal functions globally and the same is the case if you set the second switch pedal to change the programs up or down.
I have always used an expression pedal and set it globally to cc#04 (Foot Pedal)

With that setting the pedal is always available as a controller for various things in various programs since it can be selected wherever there is AMS next to a parameter.

As a side note, I actually don't understand why Korg forces the settings for the pedals on a global level. It would be far better if we could set the function of a pedal on the program/combi level. In that case, the hold pedal which acts as a sustain pedal on a piano patch could be used as a Rotary switch on an organ patch.
I fully agree to the change of making foot switch/pedal assignments patch dependent instead of global (or at least make it overridable).
When using a MIDI switch board you can use multiple switches . I have a Behringer FCB1010 and use about 5 switches.

Another problem is that Korg sets the functions for the foot switch (like program up and down) only possible for one CC (for the switch, CC80 if I'm right). It would be awesome to assign e.g. 80 to program up, 81 to program down etc.

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:39 am
by SanderXpander
I agree to some extent, but in the hold pedal/rotor speed case, it's actually possible to make the leslie respond to the hold pedal, right? The only drawback would be that it still also holds notes, but that's just a matter of playing technique with keys and pedal that I haven't found too hampering in the past.

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:44 am
by sani
SanderXpander wrote:I agree to some extent, but in the hold pedal/rotor speed case, it's actually possible to make the leslie respond to the hold pedal, right?
I don't know how that works on the Kronos because I don't have it and there is the cx3 simulation. On the previous models it was not possible to select the hold pedal as an AMS source anywhere AFAIK.

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:52 am
by SanderXpander
Eh, I did it on my Karma already and later on my Triton Extreme. Just go to the IFX and select "CC#64 pedal hold" instead of Joystick+Y.

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:35 am
by ronnfigg
In combi mode you can filter the damper pedal to NOT hold organ notes.I

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:15 am
by michelkeijzers
ronnfigg wrote:In combi mode you can filter the damper pedal to NOT hold organ notes.I
Thanks for this idea!

This sounds very interesting. Although it is a bit of a 'trick', it
is useful when I only have one switch (when my Behringer is not attached).

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:27 am
by SanderXpander
Ah cool, I wasn't sure if that would prevent it from still switching the leslie.

The main "problem" I see on the older machines it that you have to set it to either joystick or pedal - you can't have both. So if you don't have your footswitch you'd have to reprogram all your patches. But it seems the AMS mixer fixes this.

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:10 pm
by BillW
michelkeijzers wrote:
ronnfigg wrote:In combi mode you can filter the damper pedal to NOT hold organ notes.I
Thanks for this idea!

This sounds very interesting. Although it is a bit of a 'trick', it
is useful when I only have one switch (when my Behringer is not attached).
That is an interesting twist on the problem of not enough switch pedals. I'll have to see whether that might work for me.

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:01 pm
by sani
SanderXpander wrote:Eh, I did it on my Karma already and later on my Triton Extreme. Just go to the IFX and select "CC#64 pedal hold" instead of Joystick+Y.
That's interesting how I missed that parameter all the years!!!