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Two HDR-Tri questions

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:50 am
by Ricoche
Hello,

I'm about to pick up an HDR-Tri board with SCSI for my newly acquired Trinity V3 w/Moss and had a couple of questions that I couldn't find answers for.

1. How does one record the actual Trinity itself with the HDR? Is it as simple as connecting the trinity outputs into the HDR inputs?

2. I'm thinking of using an MO drive for recording the audio. Does this seem feasible? Are there latency issues involved versus using a standard hard disk?

Thanks in advance.

Jim

P.S. - I'm in the market for a PBS-Tri if anyone might be willing to let their s go. Just PM me. Thanks!

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:07 am
by Ricoche
I found the answers to my questions here:

http://www.proaudiosupport.com/a14296/o ... rsion.html

Basically I discovered that MO disks are too slow to record audio therefore it's not possible. A regular Hard Disk and/or Jazz drive is best.

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:16 pm
by synthjoe
Ricoche wrote:Basically I discovered that MO disks are too slow to record audio therefore it's not possible. A regular Hard Disk and/or Jazz drive is best.
Or you can use a SCSI/CF converter and record to flash media. :idea:
It is best to connect SPDIF OUT to SPDIF IN when recording the Trinity, this way you'll stay in the digital domain (just make sure to avoid feedback loop by muting the relevan channels on the mixer page). Somehow I remembered that no cable was necessary to record the Trinity itself through the HDR option, but I find no reference to this and I don't have mine in front of me to check. So, your worst case scenario is that you need a SPDIF cable, best case is that somewhere hidden you'll find the option to route the L/R signal to a pair of audio recording tracks. Good luck and enjoy your new purchase! :)

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 11:12 am
by Ricoche
synthjoe wrote: Or you can use a SCSI/CF converter and record to flash media.
Hello Synthjoe!

I managed to acquire a PBS-Tri for the Trinity and I now have an HDR-Tri on the way. I was curious if you actually are using a CF Drive with your Trinity right now and how it's working with recording audio. I just may do this. I've stock piled a couple of CF Card Drive kits from scsisamplers in the past and may stick one in there if possible. I like the idea of using Flash Cards with the Trinity for recording audio. For regular data an MO disk drive might work fine, but for audio the flash card drive would really be useful.

I'm curious about your thoughts and experience on this. Thanks!!

Jim

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 11:33 pm
by synthjoe
No, I did not use it with the Trinity, because I don't have a SCSI/CF adapter (but considering purchase since quite some time).

I did use CF/IDE converters for an old Fostex multitrack, which did not work troublefree. On the other hand, I did use these with success on many old equipment, such as PII laptops, my Mackie d8b mixing console and so on. Speed should not be an issue, as far as I can guess, if the protocol catches on and the drive will be identified correctly then recording will work, as well.

It might be worth a try (or better, it is definitively worth a try if you already have the necessary equipment), but I cannot guarantee success. However, many have reported success for a variety of applications with scsiforsamplers equipment.

Good luck and let us know how it works out for you!

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:18 am
by Ricoche
Thanks synthjoe!

I just stumbled up on this little box, the SCM PCD-50B SCSI Card Reader. You may have already heard of it. The reader looks like it could likely connect with the Korg Trinity real nicely. I may get one to test out with a number of my SCSI synths.

http://a4000t.com/store/index.php?main_ ... cts_id=180

Jim

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 7:49 pm
by MusiKman
Interesting.

I sold all my trinity's options on ebay. Only kept the DI-TRI option as it sends the trinity's main output via digital ADAT to the studio. Try to get that one.

As far as recording the trinity into itself, it should work fine with a digital coax cable via the spdif out to the spdif in of the trinity. But if you do that, then you have to save your work to an external HD. I remember the one I had sounded like a fighter jet landed in the studio. So i sold it and now just record directly to the PC ableton live via ADAT.

Might wanna check it out as it is more flexible and you can always record your midi track in ableton, alongside your audio track from the trinity. If you dont like the patch, just change it on the trinity and have the midi track control your new patch in the trinity and voila. Different patch playing same recording. Really flexible.

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 1:54 pm
by synthjoe
Ricoche wrote:I may get one to test out with a number of my SCSI synths.
Jim, did you get one, finally? What are your experiences, if so?
MusiKman wrote:I remember the one I had sounded like a fighter jet landed in the studio.
Yep, even though my SCSI HDD's are quieter, CF/SCSI looks like the perfectly silent alternative.
MusiKman wrote:...you can always record your midi track in ableton, alongside your audio track from the trinity.
You can do the same with the HDR option and the built-in sequencer on the Trinity itself.